There is no rebuilding trust. Very early on, the word was out that IVM was life saving. I brought a book to convince our Doc - showing him that it was an imperative, life saving protocol - just as Covid mandates hit, and media became hysterical. Our Doc’s reaction was astonishingly impatient and indifferent. We were confused by the hostility. He knew he was ankled and couldn’t tell us why. We were left without recourse. Why would we EVER trust “bought and paid for”medicine ever again? It’s not largely the fault of the docs, but the options for those of us who knew where this was headed - aided and abetted by the medical community gave us a death sentence. They could have come together to stand United against the pharma machine to support their Hippocratic Oath. They all betrayed us. All of them.
The doctors/nurses who didn't just out right murder their patients stood silent about what was going on for the most part. They were not willing to risk their livlihood for your life. That isn't something you can forget.
So true, we were betrayed. No one was willing to fight for early treatments and you can’t tell me they didn’t know! How was I able to find out and have to go searching on the black market for these. That was crazy, and I have 2 ex doctor friends who wouldn’t even. I don’t know if I can trust again!
It doesn't appear to me they learned anything. From the onset the ones with the megaphones including academic doctors, media and public health officials including those from the WHO all felt we didn't lockdown early and hard enough and that if we didn't have vaccines "ready" to shoot up people.
Given the empirical evidence and observational reality that lockdowns led to all sorts of nasty collateral damages and unintended consequences further compounded by unethical mandates eradicating informed consent and medical autonomy , you would think experts would show some level of humility and introspection on the foolishness of forming public health policy in a state of hysteria and moral panic.
Nope. Instead, they're doubling down if we're reading the rewriting of pandemic handbooks are any indication from the WHO's pandemic treaties right down to the recent updates in New Zealand - sure to be followed by other countries. They're CLOSING down any loopholes that led to dissent or the questioning of authority. The top-down approach is going to harden and lead to even worse outcomes. They're going to force vaccine passports for an unproven mRNA platform among other things including stricter quarantines. It's truly baffling that they can't see how bad this is. They took all the worst lessons and are using Covid as a template for future viruses (which I don't believe pose an existential threat to us as a species). Think of it. They've removed the need for TRIALS (thus eliminating any kind of safety mechanisms) and setting up (read the Prep Act) future responses by declaring an emergency and authorizing any kind of vaccine under an EUA. Safe and effective my fricken a**. Vaccines are now a combination of sheer profiteering and dogmatic quackery.
Francis Collins admitted they applied a myopic approach to Covid. In such a statement, he indirectly confirmed Sweden was right.
All this confusion and negative tradeoffs from inflation to excess deaths (including suicides, vaccine injuries/deaths can be reasonably attributed to the response. I mean, who in their right mind could possibly think a vaccine passport for a "vaccine" that's been shown to not stop transmission or prevent anything in any statistical meaningful manner is appropriate?
This is why they're loosening the standards of scientific standards. RCTs are out and observational studies and mathematical models are the rage. in other words, quackery and garbage have entered medicine. And you're a racist for thinking otherwise. Look at the psychotic screeds that come out of the mouth of Peter Hotez. And that dangerous little man has influence.
Tell us you're not in bed with pharma without telling us you're in bed with pharma. It's classic merging of state and corporate interests as defined by fascism. Except here it's medical fascism. You will have no say about what goes into your body. it's mad.
They're responding to opposing views in the worst possible way. They're framing it as a war on 'disinformation' which is a sure way to further worsen outcomes and trust. You can't apply a hammer to such issues.
Then they wonder why trust is eroding. It's all going to get worse before it gets better. This generation of health officials believe in all sorts of non-empirical applications in dealing with health. They have littler regard for OVERALL public health and are focused in all sorts of idiotic things like 'social justice' as part of what constitutes health. I reject this.
Good luck rebuilding trust. The fact Bill Gates is the second largest donor to the WHO should raise alarm bells. If you think a convicted felon with Aspergers and sociopathic tendencies means well and isn't driven solely by the profit motive, you need to stay away form jobs that profile human nature.
Before COVID I was fine with the system even though I had some suspicions and reservations but nothing to make me a 'recalcitrant'. Now they made a 'conspiracy theorist' of me and quite frankly everyday I feel more and more comfortable that we're run by fools, sociopaths, psychopaths, and hypochondriacs who think paternalistic health is sound.
Just an opinion. One in which makes me a 'threat' ro public health. I'm open to be told I'm wrong but I'm just reading and listening to what the people in power are saying - and reading between the lines with a critical and sober view.
As an aside and more cheerier note, I'll be visiting England/Scotland in August. Looking forward to it.
I'm in Ireland...a similar "health" system as the NHS. I agree with every single word. I was always cautious but I wasn't a conspiracy theorist or anti- vaccine, for that matter. I spent lockdown researching vaccines, joining journals and other research sites to read the papers. Now, I'm completely anti any vaccine. As for 'my body, my choice'!!!! We had the vaccine passport in Ireland. Regrow trust???? How??? When we now know how fully propagandized theyve become? When we now know how little doctors actually know about health??? And how they dont know how little they know....that makes them very dangerous.
In one of his stand up jokes, Joe Rogan said (and I paraphrase), "Before Covid I would have told you vaccines were the most important invention in human history. After Covid I don't think we went to the moon."
Among the administration’s ill advised responses, I would forgive the lock downs and masking mandates, not the vaccine priority. Making it the exclusive priority was even worse, as it meant ignoring the needs of the sick and early treatment protocols. Completely against the ethics of medicine.
I only trust doctors who have been crushed by the Government so called covid expert administration and agenda. All others that went along with the covid lockdown jab mask narrative should be locked up!
"the most concerning drop was among those over 65, whose trust plummeted from over 80% to almost 50% by 2024. This age group, with significant interaction with the healthcare system, reflects a deeply worrying trend."
Well, covid made us realize that they don't care if we live or die. Unlike the kids, we don't forget these things. As long as the medical establishment was honest about their ignorance, we trusted in their experimentation, thinking they actually cared and were doing their very best.
They used up their accrued inventory of trust when they imprisoned us and lied to us.
They knew the mRNA prophylactics were experimental, and they lied to us. They knew that it takes the better part of a decade to establish safety and efficacy, and they also were well aware that we were unlikely to know that. That's what makes it a lie, and not a tragic mistake.
Many of us then began to wonder what else they were lying about. With prescription after prescription, we began to do the homework and began to realize that we'd been played for suckers.
We began to realize that we didn't need to pay anyone money our widows need for food, when we can simply die for free. That's the liberation of age; we know we're not long for this world, and we don't need to associate with liars, cheats and thieves.
There's a few honest doctors out there, but the challenge is to find them before the others empty your wallet and leave you dead in the gutter.
I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to read it and respond, Doctor. In the public sphere, it's been a very few such yourself that offered any hope of remedy for the horror of our devolution into a low-trust society.
In daily life, the confidentially-offered observations of a few local practitioners served a function similar to that of the "living books" of Bradbury's iconic novel "Fahrenheit 451." The suppression of facts in an age of electronic storage is simpler than "calling out the firemen," but serves the same purpose.
Thank you for being a voice of honesty amidst this ghastly time of deceit. We would be utterly lost in this horror without the small but courageous and level-headed cohort of which you are a member. You folks walk the path of modern Solzhenitsyns.
As I watch folks around me suffer and die in suspiciously close correlation with their oft-coerced participation in medical experimentation, the knowledge that correlation does not equal causation, is cold comfort indeed.
My trust in doctors has stayed the same, my trust in healthcare administration is near zero now. The people running our healthcare system deserve no trust. GPs are just doing their best in most cases are either are forced into doing things or do not have time to research things so they defer to the administration.
Most doctors have no idea about the drugs and vaccines they prescribe, they are willfully blind regarding the history, the trial results, adverse events, the risk benefit ratio.... They are really mostly useless in providing health care anything outside of routine procedures and even that is a risk.
when many sold out to drug companies and related protocols dictateds by the health boards, which i feel was dictated by profit and the drug companies.
When asking the doctor I atended for an alternative, meaning other , treatment for blood pressure she said out plainly that within the system she works in that is all she could offer.
6 years on I am still here, as NOT yet underground, and my bloodprrssure has stabilised without medication.
Trust will slowly come back when they can proctice medicine not be drug pushers for Big Pharma
Yes absolutely we see out Drs as being complicit .Especially the Hospitalist Docs. Pure GREED coupled with nurses who are newer and not as well experienced or educated. and severely lacking in empathy. But why not? We live in a nation that kills babies in the womb and wants to murder them right up to and shortly after birth for their organs which are sold to Labs . Seventeen thousand for a liver to harvest the stem cells.
now we expect the healthcare system to care for the older people in the hospital when the government pays them to kill?
The Fed Fauci driven Protocols paid thousands for patients on Rendisivir which attacks the kidneys. Thousands for the patients put on vents and the icing on the financial cake was the covid diagnosis.
One hospital in SE Florida wrote up a death cert for a patient killed in a motorcycle accident. They said he died of covid and the family sued and won.....mum in the media.
Women knew covid shot messed up their monthly cycle, their fertility, miscarriages, their hormones etc. More babies born without a heart beat, Women are going to talk.
As well those without the shot who got covid spike protien shedding from those with the jab. My wife lost her period and went immediately into menopause. Now 2 years later has breast cancer!
We are awaiting removal by surgery of 1 lump and they will remove the associated lympnode if affected. That's 4 weeks from now, it's been 4 weeks already after initial diagnosis. We are personally beginning fenbendazole treatment of 222mg per day with vit d, k2 and vit e. Hopefully that will take it down before the operation. Thank you!
Wishing the family all the best in their fight, all on their own, not only against the disease, but against an unfriendly system. God bless you all. If I can have your e-mail, I can forward a few messages on repurposed medicines that I had received in recent past, opening more possibilities on repurposed medicines.
My doctor told me that the vaccine is safe. He proudly said to me that he’s had all five recommended shots and he’s had no issues. My response to him was “You can also play five rounds of Russian roulette with the same revolver and walk away unscathed” He gave up on me after that.
There is no rebuilding trust. Very early on, the word was out that IVM was life saving. I brought a book to convince our Doc - showing him that it was an imperative, life saving protocol - just as Covid mandates hit, and media became hysterical. Our Doc’s reaction was astonishingly impatient and indifferent. We were confused by the hostility. He knew he was ankled and couldn’t tell us why. We were left without recourse. Why would we EVER trust “bought and paid for”medicine ever again? It’s not largely the fault of the docs, but the options for those of us who knew where this was headed - aided and abetted by the medical community gave us a death sentence. They could have come together to stand United against the pharma machine to support their Hippocratic Oath. They all betrayed us. All of them.
The doctors/nurses who didn't just out right murder their patients stood silent about what was going on for the most part. They were not willing to risk their livlihood for your life. That isn't something you can forget.
Almost all of them
So true, we were betrayed. No one was willing to fight for early treatments and you can’t tell me they didn’t know! How was I able to find out and have to go searching on the black market for these. That was crazy, and I have 2 ex doctor friends who wouldn’t even. I don’t know if I can trust again!
It doesn't appear to me they learned anything. From the onset the ones with the megaphones including academic doctors, media and public health officials including those from the WHO all felt we didn't lockdown early and hard enough and that if we didn't have vaccines "ready" to shoot up people.
Given the empirical evidence and observational reality that lockdowns led to all sorts of nasty collateral damages and unintended consequences further compounded by unethical mandates eradicating informed consent and medical autonomy , you would think experts would show some level of humility and introspection on the foolishness of forming public health policy in a state of hysteria and moral panic.
Nope. Instead, they're doubling down if we're reading the rewriting of pandemic handbooks are any indication from the WHO's pandemic treaties right down to the recent updates in New Zealand - sure to be followed by other countries. They're CLOSING down any loopholes that led to dissent or the questioning of authority. The top-down approach is going to harden and lead to even worse outcomes. They're going to force vaccine passports for an unproven mRNA platform among other things including stricter quarantines. It's truly baffling that they can't see how bad this is. They took all the worst lessons and are using Covid as a template for future viruses (which I don't believe pose an existential threat to us as a species). Think of it. They've removed the need for TRIALS (thus eliminating any kind of safety mechanisms) and setting up (read the Prep Act) future responses by declaring an emergency and authorizing any kind of vaccine under an EUA. Safe and effective my fricken a**. Vaccines are now a combination of sheer profiteering and dogmatic quackery.
Francis Collins admitted they applied a myopic approach to Covid. In such a statement, he indirectly confirmed Sweden was right.
All this confusion and negative tradeoffs from inflation to excess deaths (including suicides, vaccine injuries/deaths can be reasonably attributed to the response. I mean, who in their right mind could possibly think a vaccine passport for a "vaccine" that's been shown to not stop transmission or prevent anything in any statistical meaningful manner is appropriate?
This is why they're loosening the standards of scientific standards. RCTs are out and observational studies and mathematical models are the rage. in other words, quackery and garbage have entered medicine. And you're a racist for thinking otherwise. Look at the psychotic screeds that come out of the mouth of Peter Hotez. And that dangerous little man has influence.
Tell us you're not in bed with pharma without telling us you're in bed with pharma. It's classic merging of state and corporate interests as defined by fascism. Except here it's medical fascism. You will have no say about what goes into your body. it's mad.
They're responding to opposing views in the worst possible way. They're framing it as a war on 'disinformation' which is a sure way to further worsen outcomes and trust. You can't apply a hammer to such issues.
Then they wonder why trust is eroding. It's all going to get worse before it gets better. This generation of health officials believe in all sorts of non-empirical applications in dealing with health. They have littler regard for OVERALL public health and are focused in all sorts of idiotic things like 'social justice' as part of what constitutes health. I reject this.
Good luck rebuilding trust. The fact Bill Gates is the second largest donor to the WHO should raise alarm bells. If you think a convicted felon with Aspergers and sociopathic tendencies means well and isn't driven solely by the profit motive, you need to stay away form jobs that profile human nature.
Before COVID I was fine with the system even though I had some suspicions and reservations but nothing to make me a 'recalcitrant'. Now they made a 'conspiracy theorist' of me and quite frankly everyday I feel more and more comfortable that we're run by fools, sociopaths, psychopaths, and hypochondriacs who think paternalistic health is sound.
Just an opinion. One in which makes me a 'threat' ro public health. I'm open to be told I'm wrong but I'm just reading and listening to what the people in power are saying - and reading between the lines with a critical and sober view.
As an aside and more cheerier note, I'll be visiting England/Scotland in August. Looking forward to it.
I'm in Ireland...a similar "health" system as the NHS. I agree with every single word. I was always cautious but I wasn't a conspiracy theorist or anti- vaccine, for that matter. I spent lockdown researching vaccines, joining journals and other research sites to read the papers. Now, I'm completely anti any vaccine. As for 'my body, my choice'!!!! We had the vaccine passport in Ireland. Regrow trust???? How??? When we now know how fully propagandized theyve become? When we now know how little doctors actually know about health??? And how they dont know how little they know....that makes them very dangerous.
In one of his stand up jokes, Joe Rogan said (and I paraphrase), "Before Covid I would have told you vaccines were the most important invention in human history. After Covid I don't think we went to the moon."
Pretty much this.
Among other events.
Among the administration’s ill advised responses, I would forgive the lock downs and masking mandates, not the vaccine priority. Making it the exclusive priority was even worse, as it meant ignoring the needs of the sick and early treatment protocols. Completely against the ethics of medicine.
I only trust doctors who have been crushed by the Government so called covid expert administration and agenda. All others that went along with the covid lockdown jab mask narrative should be locked up!
Those who fought for us are now are the suffering warriors. Banks shut them down! Infuriating!
Globalist agenda and methods of behavior modification for those who don't comply to their tyrannical narratives
"the most concerning drop was among those over 65, whose trust plummeted from over 80% to almost 50% by 2024. This age group, with significant interaction with the healthcare system, reflects a deeply worrying trend."
Well, covid made us realize that they don't care if we live or die. Unlike the kids, we don't forget these things. As long as the medical establishment was honest about their ignorance, we trusted in their experimentation, thinking they actually cared and were doing their very best.
They used up their accrued inventory of trust when they imprisoned us and lied to us.
They knew the mRNA prophylactics were experimental, and they lied to us. They knew that it takes the better part of a decade to establish safety and efficacy, and they also were well aware that we were unlikely to know that. That's what makes it a lie, and not a tragic mistake.
Many of us then began to wonder what else they were lying about. With prescription after prescription, we began to do the homework and began to realize that we'd been played for suckers.
We began to realize that we didn't need to pay anyone money our widows need for food, when we can simply die for free. That's the liberation of age; we know we're not long for this world, and we don't need to associate with liars, cheats and thieves.
There's a few honest doctors out there, but the challenge is to find them before the others empty your wallet and leave you dead in the gutter.
No Amnesty
Thank you for sharing.
I sincerely appreciate your taking the time to read it and respond, Doctor. In the public sphere, it's been a very few such yourself that offered any hope of remedy for the horror of our devolution into a low-trust society.
In daily life, the confidentially-offered observations of a few local practitioners served a function similar to that of the "living books" of Bradbury's iconic novel "Fahrenheit 451." The suppression of facts in an age of electronic storage is simpler than "calling out the firemen," but serves the same purpose.
Thank you for being a voice of honesty amidst this ghastly time of deceit. We would be utterly lost in this horror without the small but courageous and level-headed cohort of which you are a member. You folks walk the path of modern Solzhenitsyns.
As I watch folks around me suffer and die in suspiciously close correlation with their oft-coerced participation in medical experimentation, the knowledge that correlation does not equal causation, is cold comfort indeed.
My trust in doctors has stayed the same, my trust in healthcare administration is near zero now. The people running our healthcare system deserve no trust. GPs are just doing their best in most cases are either are forced into doing things or do not have time to research things so they defer to the administration.
We patients need to be our own advocates.
Forced Yes but not entirely, real doctors would work outside the system, if they know the harm it is causing
Most doctors have no idea about the drugs and vaccines they prescribe, they are willfully blind regarding the history, the trial results, adverse events, the risk benefit ratio.... They are really mostly useless in providing health care anything outside of routine procedures and even that is a risk.
Trust in doctors has been waning for many years,
when many sold out to drug companies and related protocols dictateds by the health boards, which i feel was dictated by profit and the drug companies.
When asking the doctor I atended for an alternative, meaning other , treatment for blood pressure she said out plainly that within the system she works in that is all she could offer.
6 years on I am still here, as NOT yet underground, and my bloodprrssure has stabilised without medication.
Trust will slowly come back when they can proctice medicine not be drug pushers for Big Pharma
Trust is at 0% and will never improve- unless you see a doctor like Dr. Pierre Kory or someone outside of the corrupt system
Some remember when I pointed out very early how vaccine impacts hormones.
If anybody is still in doubt read this thread:
https://x.com/HouseLyndseyRN/status/1820233070424866833
It has been a place of power & that will not ever be again for so many. It wasn’t for me before any of this however I do respect their 🙏🏽 knowledge
People have put their lives in these Drs hands & many are gone or completely mamed😞
Yes absolutely we see out Drs as being complicit .Especially the Hospitalist Docs. Pure GREED coupled with nurses who are newer and not as well experienced or educated. and severely lacking in empathy. But why not? We live in a nation that kills babies in the womb and wants to murder them right up to and shortly after birth for their organs which are sold to Labs . Seventeen thousand for a liver to harvest the stem cells.
now we expect the healthcare system to care for the older people in the hospital when the government pays them to kill?
The Fed Fauci driven Protocols paid thousands for patients on Rendisivir which attacks the kidneys. Thousands for the patients put on vents and the icing on the financial cake was the covid diagnosis.
One hospital in SE Florida wrote up a death cert for a patient killed in a motorcycle accident. They said he died of covid and the family sued and won.....mum in the media.
Women knew covid shot messed up their monthly cycle, their fertility, miscarriages, their hormones etc. More babies born without a heart beat, Women are going to talk.
As well those without the shot who got covid spike protien shedding from those with the jab. My wife lost her period and went immediately into menopause. Now 2 years later has breast cancer!
I am so sorry s r, I can’t imagine... sending you compassion
We are awaiting removal by surgery of 1 lump and they will remove the associated lympnode if affected. That's 4 weeks from now, it's been 4 weeks already after initial diagnosis. We are personally beginning fenbendazole treatment of 222mg per day with vit d, k2 and vit e. Hopefully that will take it down before the operation. Thank you!
Wishing the family all the best in their fight, all on their own, not only against the disease, but against an unfriendly system. God bless you all. If I can have your e-mail, I can forward a few messages on repurposed medicines that I had received in recent past, opening more possibilities on repurposed medicines.
❣️
I follow Dr. Robert Morse for more holistic approach. I have been following him for years and love him. Wishing your wife the best.
https://morses.tv/video/questions-answers-701/
Almost all doctors are circus animals https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/humans-barnyard-animals-and-circus/
My doctor told me that the vaccine is safe. He proudly said to me that he’s had all five recommended shots and he’s had no issues. My response to him was “You can also play five rounds of Russian roulette with the same revolver and walk away unscathed” He gave up on me after that.