I really would liked to have taken part in this discussion. It‘s very interesting. both of you are right. Philip is seeing strange, weird diseases (me too). These MIGHT be infections all over the body (triggered by the virus and/or the immune system). But let‘s be clear: Geert‘s hypothesis is a model. and things in medicine don‘t follow exactly a model. We are all different. So, there will be nor black or white. There will be grey pictures in lots of patients. One more to the colour of black, one more to the colour of white.
While recently picking up paper records at the oncology department from 2022, I saw a healthy man walking into the waiting room. I remember speaking with him in 2022 when he was slumped in a wheelchair with his arms hanging limply.
I asked him about his recovery and treatment. He didn't remember me, indicating that his brain was not functioning properly at the time. However, he answered that four blood transfusions between 2022 and 2023, using blood from a younger, non-vaccinated relative, brought him back on his feet.
Could a blood transfusion from a matching donor who has never had COVID-19 and is non-vaccinated indeed restore the immune system of a very sick person?
As far as I understand Geert the panademic will be over after his still hypothetical „Hivicron“ will have infected the world. He argues with thi new virus will still be a „self-limiting infectious disease“. So - hopefully - it will be over after this. When? I don‘t know. All speculative.
When this virus emerges, the end of the world as we know will begin. The health care system will quickly break down. People will be dying at home. Death will be everywhere. Both Dr. Rob and Dr. McMillian know what is coming. They are trying save anyone they can through information about anti-virals. But they know that millions will soon die quick horrible deaths that cannot be treated.
As far as I see the literature (thanks to Mikolaj Raszek!!!) all published studies on that topic measured the IgG4 fraction against spike protein. Measuring whole Anti-spike antibodies will not help, as you may not simply relate a then measured total IgG4 account to spike. Sorry, I really don‘t know who is measuring this specific anti-spike IgG4. I would really like to know a lab doing this. I did in a younger woman with a weird pneumonia. She was vaccinated 3x. So according to all results presented until now she MUST have anti-spike IgG4 in relevant levels. Her total IgG4 amount was at he lower level of the normal range… So: there is still a lot of work to be done.
By functioning I mean, can IgG4 be silenced (mutated), or even eliminated by the virus?
Example effect in cancer: Dr. Stephanie Seneff mentioned oxygenase cytochrome p450 or lipoxygenase and this one gets suppressed by glyphosate and so therefore prefer this path that's how you get the inflammation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2XnzYJTVU
Silenced? How should a virus mute an immunoglobulin? Don‘t know. IgG4 are involved in autoimmune, fibrotic diseases - the mechanism still not being obvious. What might be link is IgG4 in some way may be engaged in the development of some cancers. Science is still working on this topic. Little is known. Unfortunately. Look out for videos by Mikolaj Raszek of Merogenomis.
We are at a point where we are facing both COVID and the vaccine situation, which has made me reflect on our immune system, ever since I saw the cartoon "Once Upon a Time... Life - Toxin Wars" in 1988.
The illustration showed how T and B cells, trained by the thymus, memorize intruders and attack invaders in conjunction with the rest of the immune defense in case of infection. Particularly alarming were the cytokines, which seemed unstoppable and destroyed both friend and foe, especially the red blood cells (RBCs).
Ever since then, I have wondered what would happen when a virus or bacterium, unknown to the defense system, enters the body. What would occur if the thymus is compromised, cytochrome P450 is out of commission, adrenaline damages the walls of epithelial cells, and heparin reacts excessively or insufficiently by destroying fibrinogens or creating clots that block veins and arteries, leading to heart problems?
Questions also arise about what happens to all the exhausted macrophages and how overloaded lysosomes release viruses instead of recycling cellular debris. How can organs or brain systems continue to function while inflamed, especially after extensive apoptosis leads to cell death?
Additionally, there is the question of how mitochondria can recover if necessary nutrients, minerals, and vitamins cannot reach this restorative powerhouse.
COVID and the vaccine have presented challenges that necessitate a reevaluation of the endocrine and lymphatic systems, as well as fundamental organ functions, to identify and support the restoration of natural functions without resorting to potentially harmful pharmaceuticals.
I can’t help but think about the end of the interview. The two of you are discussing that for some ppl, avoiding the virus and taking preventative antivirals is the only option. How realistic is that long term? Will the last variant basically go extinct once it burns through the population? Because I’m the highly vaccinated that don’t have immune defenses left, taking ivermectin for the rest of their lives does not seem realistic. When would they be on the clear, if ever?
I’m a new subscriber, while immediate family is unvaccinated, but my siblings and all my nephews have been vaccinated and this is why I ask. Thank you in advance.
The FLCCC.net site mentions many agents that can be used in lieu of or in addition to ivermectin. I think it would be wonderful if the doctors there would get on board with the science you guys are presenting and have a specific protocol which can be recommended to the vaccinated. Unfortunately they seem to be very doubtful of the science - with Dr. Been, who is now a part of the FLCCC, having done a video in early 2021 that was highly critical of Dr. VB’s original presentation. Perhaps you can invite Dr. Been on to get a discussion going on the matter. Without saying I know for sure who is right it seems that one of our biggest problems now is the difficulty people have in admitting mistakes, whether for reputational and/or financial reasons. All I can say is that Dr. VB, Dr. Rennebohm and you sound extremely credible to me, especially with all of you candidly admitting Dr. VB’s mistakes to date and explaining why they occurred. I think anyone who breaks new ground in any field will almost inevitably make mistakes they have to correct. A heartfelt thanks to you all for expressing your learned opinions on the situation so that hopefully as many people as possible can be helped. With a little nudging from all of us perhaps we can get the FLCCC and other prominent alternative-medicine doctors considering and contributing to the science you are presenting without anyone feeling a need to avoid the discussion out of fear they will be criticized if it is shown they have made mistakes. I think people who admit their mistakes are perhaps the most highly respected. Sorry to go on so long, thank you again!
Excerpt: Now that we all have a great understanding of the CRISPR/Cas-9 system and how humans are exploiting this system to do gene therapy and stuff, let’s get back to why we’re interested in this subject matter in the first place.
Recently, sequencing of COVID-19 modified mRNA Pfizer vials has revealed the presence of SV40 enhancer. Vials sequenced by Medical Genomics (work reproduced) revealed the enhancer as part of the plasmid map used for production of the modified mRNA - not disclosed by Pfizer or BioNTech in the ‘original plasmid map’ released - as indicated in this version of the Rolling Rapporteur report.12 Currently, both Health Canada (HC) and the European Medicines Agency (EMA) admit to its presence.13 This was just one bit of DNA discovered of the billions of fragments also discovered in both mono and bivalent Pfizer vials, by the way.
The SV40 enhancer is a very useful as a gene therapy tool because it’s a nuclear localization sequence (NLS): it’s very efficient at trafficking stuff to the nuclei of cells. You can read about that here.14 If this is the first time you’re finding out about this, then you’re probably wondering why in the ‘H’ this NLS is in this Pfizer plasmids/vials. It really doesn’t serve a function as per the manufacturing process, so it doesn’t need to be there. It’s a mammalian expression promoter.15 You would be right to wonder.
The concern that a few of us have expressed having discovered (and learned about) this superfluous DNA in the vials, is its potential integration into the genomes of the cells transfected by the modified mRNA LNPs, injected into billions of people as part of the COVID-19 injection roll-out madness (I wish Substack had an option for a creepy font). Random integration events can result in genomic instability and can lead to such things as cancer, especially if they occur in essential genes.
In January this year a friend with chronic lymphocite leukaemia, so no B cells, no antibodies, highly vaccinated died very rapidly with covid - within 10 days. They tried every treatment but nothing worked! They said she had caught a virulent form of the virus. Makes you think!
"Mounting evidence indicates that these vaccines, like many others, do not generate sterilizing immunity, leaving people vulnerable to recurrent infections. Additionally, it has been discovered that the mRNA vaccines inhibit essential immunological pathways, thus impairing early interferon signaling. Within the framework of COVID-19 vaccination, this inhibition ensures an appropriate spike protein synthesis and a reduced immune activation. Evidence is provided that adding 100 % of N1-methyl-pseudouridine (m1Ψ) to the mRNA vaccine in a melanoma model stimulated cancer growth and metastasis, while non-modified mRNA vaccines induced opposite results, thus suggesting that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could aid cancer development."
Scary scenario and attractive hypothesis. Is there any laboratory data that supports it? The selective encephalopathy suggested by Philip raises a 'zombie' condition- hopefully not flesh eating!
Spike protein could remain in immune cells for more than 245 days following vaccination, according to a recent preprint. The study evaluated 50 patients who developed long COVID-like symptoms after the COVID-19 vaccine; none had been infected with the virus.
The recommendation to take anti-virals such as Ivermectin before getting sick, or exposed to the upcoming HIVICON - won't this just delay the inevitable? A person takes Ivermectin this summer and survives, then this fall or winter or next spring another variant comes along, do they take Ivermectin for the rest of their lives?
I really would liked to have taken part in this discussion. It‘s very interesting. both of you are right. Philip is seeing strange, weird diseases (me too). These MIGHT be infections all over the body (triggered by the virus and/or the immune system). But let‘s be clear: Geert‘s hypothesis is a model. and things in medicine don‘t follow exactly a model. We are all different. So, there will be nor black or white. There will be grey pictures in lots of patients. One more to the colour of black, one more to the colour of white.
Excellent.
Completely agree.
Send me an email Dietmar.
vejonhealth@outlook.com
A challenging question for clinicians:
While recently picking up paper records at the oncology department from 2022, I saw a healthy man walking into the waiting room. I remember speaking with him in 2022 when he was slumped in a wheelchair with his arms hanging limply.
I asked him about his recovery and treatment. He didn't remember me, indicating that his brain was not functioning properly at the time. However, he answered that four blood transfusions between 2022 and 2023, using blood from a younger, non-vaccinated relative, brought him back on his feet.
Could a blood transfusion from a matching donor who has never had COVID-19 and is non-vaccinated indeed restore the immune system of a very sick person?
Antivirals won‘t work. That‘s exactly why Geert is propagating taking antivirals PROPHYLACTICALLY. Rob states this just right at the end.
Hi Dietmar, can you please weigh in on my question below? Thank you.
As far as I understand Geert the panademic will be over after his still hypothetical „Hivicron“ will have infected the world. He argues with thi new virus will still be a „self-limiting infectious disease“. So - hopefully - it will be over after this. When? I don‘t know. All speculative.
When this virus emerges, the end of the world as we know will begin. The health care system will quickly break down. People will be dying at home. Death will be everywhere. Both Dr. Rob and Dr. McMillian know what is coming. They are trying save anyone they can through information about anti-virals. But they know that millions will soon die quick horrible deaths that cannot be treated.
Don‘t forget the IgG4!!!!!!! These people WILL get VERY sick. Just now already.
Could you name a lab in Germany (Bayern) that tests for IgG4? So far, doctors have ordered only basic lab work.
As far as I know every lab can messure IgG4. BUT: NOT specifically against IgG4. Only the whole bunch of IgG4.
Exactly: "Only the whole bunch of IgG4."
How can we find out if IgG4 is still functioning or even erased?
Thanks for your answer.
As far as I see the literature (thanks to Mikolaj Raszek!!!) all published studies on that topic measured the IgG4 fraction against spike protein. Measuring whole Anti-spike antibodies will not help, as you may not simply relate a then measured total IgG4 account to spike. Sorry, I really don‘t know who is measuring this specific anti-spike IgG4. I would really like to know a lab doing this. I did in a younger woman with a weird pneumonia. She was vaccinated 3x. So according to all results presented until now she MUST have anti-spike IgG4 in relevant levels. Her total IgG4 amount was at he lower level of the normal range… So: there is still a lot of work to be done.
What do you mean by „functioning“?
By functioning I mean, can IgG4 be silenced (mutated), or even eliminated by the virus?
Example effect in cancer: Dr. Stephanie Seneff mentioned oxygenase cytochrome p450 or lipoxygenase and this one gets suppressed by glyphosate and so therefore prefer this path that's how you get the inflammation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2XnzYJTVU
Silenced? How should a virus mute an immunoglobulin? Don‘t know. IgG4 are involved in autoimmune, fibrotic diseases - the mechanism still not being obvious. What might be link is IgG4 in some way may be engaged in the development of some cancers. Science is still working on this topic. Little is known. Unfortunately. Look out for videos by Mikolaj Raszek of Merogenomis.
We are at a point where we are facing both COVID and the vaccine situation, which has made me reflect on our immune system, ever since I saw the cartoon "Once Upon a Time... Life - Toxin Wars" in 1988.
The illustration showed how T and B cells, trained by the thymus, memorize intruders and attack invaders in conjunction with the rest of the immune defense in case of infection. Particularly alarming were the cytokines, which seemed unstoppable and destroyed both friend and foe, especially the red blood cells (RBCs).
Ever since then, I have wondered what would happen when a virus or bacterium, unknown to the defense system, enters the body. What would occur if the thymus is compromised, cytochrome P450 is out of commission, adrenaline damages the walls of epithelial cells, and heparin reacts excessively or insufficiently by destroying fibrinogens or creating clots that block veins and arteries, leading to heart problems?
Questions also arise about what happens to all the exhausted macrophages and how overloaded lysosomes release viruses instead of recycling cellular debris. How can organs or brain systems continue to function while inflamed, especially after extensive apoptosis leads to cell death?
Additionally, there is the question of how mitochondria can recover if necessary nutrients, minerals, and vitamins cannot reach this restorative powerhouse.
COVID and the vaccine have presented challenges that necessitate a reevaluation of the endocrine and lymphatic systems, as well as fundamental organ functions, to identify and support the restoration of natural functions without resorting to potentially harmful pharmaceuticals.
Dr. McMillan,
I can’t help but think about the end of the interview. The two of you are discussing that for some ppl, avoiding the virus and taking preventative antivirals is the only option. How realistic is that long term? Will the last variant basically go extinct once it burns through the population? Because I’m the highly vaccinated that don’t have immune defenses left, taking ivermectin for the rest of their lives does not seem realistic. When would they be on the clear, if ever?
I’m a new subscriber, while immediate family is unvaccinated, but my siblings and all my nephews have been vaccinated and this is why I ask. Thank you in advance.
*In not I’m
What antivirals are needed? Is Ivermectin regarded as in this role
One of the few options available now.
The FLCCC.net site mentions many agents that can be used in lieu of or in addition to ivermectin. I think it would be wonderful if the doctors there would get on board with the science you guys are presenting and have a specific protocol which can be recommended to the vaccinated. Unfortunately they seem to be very doubtful of the science - with Dr. Been, who is now a part of the FLCCC, having done a video in early 2021 that was highly critical of Dr. VB’s original presentation. Perhaps you can invite Dr. Been on to get a discussion going on the matter. Without saying I know for sure who is right it seems that one of our biggest problems now is the difficulty people have in admitting mistakes, whether for reputational and/or financial reasons. All I can say is that Dr. VB, Dr. Rennebohm and you sound extremely credible to me, especially with all of you candidly admitting Dr. VB’s mistakes to date and explaining why they occurred. I think anyone who breaks new ground in any field will almost inevitably make mistakes they have to correct. A heartfelt thanks to you all for expressing your learned opinions on the situation so that hopefully as many people as possible can be helped. With a little nudging from all of us perhaps we can get the FLCCC and other prominent alternative-medicine doctors considering and contributing to the science you are presenting without anyone feeling a need to avoid the discussion out of fear they will be criticized if it is shown they have made mistakes. I think people who admit their mistakes are perhaps the most highly respected. Sorry to go on so long, thank you again!
Very interesting and very scary.
This is from “Have we been CRISPRed for the coming Cas-9?”
https://jessicar.substack.com/p/have-we-been-crispred-for-the-coming?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true
Excerpt: Now that we all have a great understanding of the CRISPR/Cas-9 system and how humans are exploiting this system to do gene therapy and stuff, let’s get back to why we’re interested in this subject matter in the first place.
Recently, sequencing of COVID-19 modified mRNA Pfizer vials has revealed the presence of SV40 enhancer. Vials sequenced by Medical Genomics (work reproduced) revealed the enhancer as part of the plasmid map used for production of the modified mRNA - not disclosed by Pfizer or BioNTech in the ‘original plasmid map’ released - as indicated in this version of the Rolling Rapporteur report.12 Currently, both Health Canada (HC) and the European Medicines Agency (EMA) admit to its presence.13 This was just one bit of DNA discovered of the billions of fragments also discovered in both mono and bivalent Pfizer vials, by the way.
The SV40 enhancer is a very useful as a gene therapy tool because it’s a nuclear localization sequence (NLS): it’s very efficient at trafficking stuff to the nuclei of cells. You can read about that here.14 If this is the first time you’re finding out about this, then you’re probably wondering why in the ‘H’ this NLS is in this Pfizer plasmids/vials. It really doesn’t serve a function as per the manufacturing process, so it doesn’t need to be there. It’s a mammalian expression promoter.15 You would be right to wonder.
The concern that a few of us have expressed having discovered (and learned about) this superfluous DNA in the vials, is its potential integration into the genomes of the cells transfected by the modified mRNA LNPs, injected into billions of people as part of the COVID-19 injection roll-out madness (I wish Substack had an option for a creepy font). Random integration events can result in genomic instability and can lead to such things as cancer, especially if they occur in essential genes.
In January this year a friend with chronic lymphocite leukaemia, so no B cells, no antibodies, highly vaccinated died very rapidly with covid - within 10 days. They tried every treatment but nothing worked! They said she had caught a virulent form of the virus. Makes you think!
Review: N1-methyl-pseudouridine (m1Ψ): Friend or foe of cancer?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38583833/
"Mounting evidence indicates that these vaccines, like many others, do not generate sterilizing immunity, leaving people vulnerable to recurrent infections. Additionally, it has been discovered that the mRNA vaccines inhibit essential immunological pathways, thus impairing early interferon signaling. Within the framework of COVID-19 vaccination, this inhibition ensures an appropriate spike protein synthesis and a reduced immune activation. Evidence is provided that adding 100 % of N1-methyl-pseudouridine (m1Ψ) to the mRNA vaccine in a melanoma model stimulated cancer growth and metastasis, while non-modified mRNA vaccines induced opposite results, thus suggesting that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could aid cancer development."
Scary scenario and attractive hypothesis. Is there any laboratory data that supports it? The selective encephalopathy suggested by Philip raises a 'zombie' condition- hopefully not flesh eating!
"Vaccinated People Show Long COVID-Like Symptoms With Detectable Spike Proteins: Preprint Study": https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/vaccinated-people-show-long-covid-like-symptoms-with-detectable-spike-protein-245-days-after-vaccination-preprint-study-5617223
Spike protein could remain in immune cells for more than 245 days following vaccination, according to a recent preprint. The study evaluated 50 patients who developed long COVID-like symptoms after the COVID-19 vaccine; none had been infected with the virus.
Would this mean 𝘽𝘼.4/5 𝙞𝙣𝙛𝙚𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣 renders antibodies, leaving the infected completely defenseless?
Emerging variants develop total escape from potent monoclonal antibodies induced by BA.4/5 infection: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-47393-3
The recommendation to take anti-virals such as Ivermectin before getting sick, or exposed to the upcoming HIVICON - won't this just delay the inevitable? A person takes Ivermectin this summer and survives, then this fall or winter or next spring another variant comes along, do they take Ivermectin for the rest of their lives?
My question as well
You talk about taking antivirals but do we buy that in UK?