Locking people up in their houses and starving them to death works great! Starvation and suicide have saved so many people from Covid and even more horrifying fates, like cancer and listening to a Joe Biden speech.
Zero COVID policy doesn't work ... period. Not for China. Not for anyone. Any suggestion that it might supports the violations of human right used to try to achieve what is a totally nonsensical policy anyway. How a Dr could consider writing in support of such a policy, even vaguely, beggars belief. When natural immunity is more than capable of coping and there are totally effective treatment options possible, there is no case to suggest any type of "vaccine/gene therapy" is necessary. Let's stick to the proven science.
Thanks for pointing this out Dr McMillan it will be interesting to see how China fares in its health outcomes in future years a lot better than Western Nations
You continue to defend the indefensible. The scientific approach has already observed human rights violations, has already observed that there are effective treatment regimes, and that natural immunity far exceeds anything produced by these gene therapies. We already know they were rushed through to temporary authorisation based on a false premise that there is no effective treatment, and the data has and is being corrupted. We already know the volume of adverse reactions and deaths far exceeds what has previously caused trials to stop, let alone public use. We already know that drugs like remdesivir are killing patients. Science dictates you intervene at the soonest indication it is required. This time passed many months ago. What exactly are you waiting to observe?
I wouldn't be too flippant towards China, if we all eventually succumb to long-covid conditions (due to repeat virus exposure) they might be the only able-bodied people left willing to change your diapers etc.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions that you have zero medical understanding. Only those who have been stupid enough to have had the jabs have damaged their immune system to that extent. The rest of us who rely on natural immunity and adequate intake of Vit D3 etc aren't at risk to anywhere near the same degree unless they keep rolling out more jabs that force the virus into an even more dangerous form, but even then, we're still better off with our innate immunity and getting proper treatment that has been known about all along.
Given that the CCP has been giving jabs like sweeties too, their population will be in no fit state either, especially after the coming real estate and economic collapse that's just around the corner. I'll let you hog the diapers, thanks... :-)
Oh, the popular misconception that only the jabs are bad...
It also lets the authorities off the hook who created it, let it spread, & deliberately botched up the response...
China didn't use the mRNA platform - & maybe (unlike the West) removed/modified the furin cleavage site & HIV inserts etc - as any sane authority would...
Any repetitive spike exposure is unfortunate - whether naturally or through the jibby jabbers. The natural way may be preferable - but should still be minimised if possible.
Like the meme I made a while back - you convince half the population to take a dodgy jab - & the other half that covid isn't dangerous... The end result is all the same...
However, you maybe missed the fact that the GOF domains in strains subsequent to the initial SARS-CoV2 have dropped off as predicted by Prof Montagnier. You can breathe easier that prion promotion is not a risk from natural infection now - that was my biggest concern given that there is no safe level of prions. Auto-immune disease is far more likely from the jabs from what I can tell. This loss of GOF is further proof that the SP was man-made and engineered by the fact that nature does not maintain what is not truly natural.
I'm not saying that natural infection is not without any risk at all, but it is many times less so than the jabs, especially if you look after your health and don't have any comorbidities. The fact that a natural infection has to get past mucosal local immunity and systemic immunity to cause serious disease gives far greater chance of successfully fighting it off with only mild symptoms and no long term effects.
I have no intention of contracting SP from whichever source as much as I can prevent it, but not to the detriment of my health in other ways.
From what I've read the Chinese vaccine has very poor efficacy which is unsurprising given the past difficulties in bringing a coronavirus vaccine to market. They tried it for the initial SARS but it killed the experimental ferrets from ADE. I suspect if the CCP keep mandating more "boosters" then ADE will emerge there too.
The ONLY safe way to maximally minimise the risks is to stay unjabbed and keep taking your Vits and minerals etc.
If we end up with a 'mass-disabling event' due to covid sequelae - then it will be the West appealing to China for medical assistance. How ironic that would be....
These are big ifs, but personally, I wouldn't be too quick to write covid off as non-consequential...
You clearly have no medical background or understanding. Natural immunity is protective which makes zero-COVID unnecessary, and given that it is now endemic, impossible. It is eminently treatable and has always been if the treatment regimes hadn't been suppressed/banned. The lockdowns have been proven to be useless too. We don't need Chinese assistance - for what? The consequential aspect of COVID that we all need to recognise and stand up against is the totalitarian regime it threatens to usher in, with the excuse for control and loss of rights/freedoms. That is the most dangerous part of what is currently going on.
Strange how this doctor, in 2020, was featuring so many people who were into early treatment and then standard measures to deal with respiratory viruses and now he thinks maybe zero covid is worth it if it can avoid even mild illness? all the horror of zero covid because it's so important to make sure that no one ever catches this thing, even if almost everyone has the ability (if not messed with) to handle it and move on? wtf :(
Sweden has a more healthy population, takes supplementation very seriously & also has smaller households compared to other nations.... They also put their elderly in care to sleep...
So probably not the best role model...
China knows exactly the same as what our own Governments know - except that our Governments view us as more expendable...
Sweden always admitted they made a mistake with the elderly. My point is that they followed established epidemiological science and never closed their schools.
I'd say they're the better model of any of the nations.
Also, Sweden still had some restrictions & even masks for a period, if I remember correctly.
In the UK, it was a kind of 'pretend lockdown', with many schools still at half capacity (for so-called 'key workers') & production still going smoothly.
But the most imported point is that the nation apparently has the most single-person households in the world - so many people already lived in a kind of permanent state of lockdown - a bit like the metropolitan laptop elites in the UK/US etc...
Also, if we are really facing a long-term 'disabling event' due to Covid - then China's gamble has truly paid off.
UveBeenNUDGED must be a Chinese/WEF stooge or bot. There is no defence for the human rights infringements the CCP has imposed and "the end justifies the means" is the reason given by every totalitarian regime to justify their corruption and anti-human actions. It is not defensible.
Dr. Tegnell admitted they didn't move to protect the elderly fast enough and properly. Otherwise, their death rates would have been less.
Sweden had NOTHING like we had in the West. It was left to the people and none of it by way of mandates. They had some restrictions for a period like Norway but it didn't reach the absurd levels elsewhere. And even that led to concerns for loss of liberties in Sweden.
If you don't conduct a cost-benefit analysis, any assertions of China's lockdowns paying off is without base or fact.
Sure. Shut down the highway system. Accidents will go down. But at what cost? Lock her down. Like my highway analogy. You will be able to make a case hospitalizations or even deaths are down but if on the other side of the ledger it comes with destroyed businesses, suicides, missed surgeries etc. Where's the benefit? It becomes, as they say, the cure being worse than the disease. This is where Sweden was more prudent and wise.
It truly baffles me how we in the West stubbornly refuse to look at the trade-offs of lockdowns. Life is BUT about trade-offs.
If those images in China are true, living like caged animal to combat a respiratory illness is not only foolish but barbaric on levels I scant comprehend.
Alas, it all hinges on, as we've stated. what do they know we don't know? After all, the virus likely did come out of a lab in Wuhan. Maybe even Daszak and Fauci don't even know the extent of it. One guy who may know is Baric. But now we're treading onto another territory here.
Zero covid policy is no free lunch. Its human and economic cost to China should have been huge. Much much more than the one from a normal encounter with the virus like any other country. So it is not a policy for the future for any one. Technically it prevented the Chinese population from having any kind of natural protection from past exposures when Omicron struck them a few months ago ferociously. Their vaccine based protection from the past also had disappeared. Omicron had a free run, the population quickly got herd immunity that was enough to force Omicron withdraw as quickly as it stuck them. Technically, this was a classic example of a full scale, pure herd immunity at work. Very little fresh vaccinations would have taken place in that quick surge. On the face of it, China can claim to have had the last laugh. But it would not admit its horrendous cost. So next time, like Sweden, we should allow the infection to spread to generate quick herd immunity. But unlike Sweden, institute early effective treatments regimen, to take care of the sick.
China....hummmmm it's all so interesting....what more truths will show up? That's the thing..truth always finds it's way up to the top .... and then logic is there ..... what amazing times we are in
We already have a working mucosal defense system, that just needs proper support in the form of good nutrition (especially vitamin D and low carb diet), an unpolluted environment, and a healthy active life. 97% of people were immune to severe Covid19 due to previous coronavirus exposure and possibly SARS-Cov exposure. There were promising early treatments for those at risk, that merely needed government support for research and proving and scaling up. No vaccine was ever needed.
This man made “virus” has @ LEAST a 99.7% survivability for the vast majority of mankind. NONE of what was perpetrated by global elites (masks, distancing, lockdowns, “vaccination”) was @ all about public health or a “pandemic”. It was & is a scam & depopulation agenda.
This alleged God might give rights but people defend them or take them away. I agree lockdowns were wrong for this pandemic - only if the infection were like in the movie World War Z (100% fatal) or 55% fatal like Ebola i could support interim drastic measures. Especially until means of transmission was well understood and could be mitigated, which is the case for Ebola. In the case of SARS-Cov-2, the evidence showed since mid 2020 that there was no stopping transmission due to its aerosolized nature and low symptom incubation period.
"Alleged" God. Mkay. If you think lockdowns for anything are okay, I don't know what to tell you. Quarantining the sick is one thing. But, you don't imprison people because you're scared of risks.
From what I understand, antigen-specific antibodies that generate in the mucosa are short-lived at best (as opposed to those that generate systemically as a result of viremia). The primary response to a coronavirus therefore appears to be cellular (NK cells and Tcells) not humoral . There are the broad-based innate antibodies at the mucosa, also. In addition to that, it seems the development of long-term immune memory (which would be the goal of vaccination) requires the activation of Tcells as well as the LINKED recognition of a bouquet of viral epitopes (primarily functionally-constrained proteins) via HLA receptor protein display of infected cells, interferon signaling, and apoptosis, by which the cellular contents of infected cells come into contact with Bcells at the mucosa and then, ultimately, the lymph nodes, (where the Tcells also activate Bcells). These mechanisms would not be sufficiently triggered through ANY replication-deficient vaccine, and would therefore be reliant upon adaptive antibodies, which do not seem to last and are neither sufficient or necessary to abrogate an infection.
So, while these mucosal vaccines might be less likely to be harmful from an AE standpoint, their effectiveness could be quite limited and here still might be issues of ADE or OAS if they do target a very narrow range of structural epitopes.
At this point, I would also think that due to random mutation and recombination (especially of the notorious spike), that SARS Cov2 has become, at least for the previously infected/recovered and likely for the uninfected/untransfected, nothing more than a common cold, like its relatives. Obviously, it is capable of causing repeated infections but is essentially harmless/more of a nuisance (and unlikely to to be ever "vaccinateable". Whether this bears out for the repeatedly boosted and transfected is another matter. Just a few thoughts based on my readings etc.
I’m no virologist, I do read the chemistry world magazine my other half gets due to his membership through work. Throughout the years I’ve read of many breakthroughs that have covered many layers of science.
Reading the articles about these vaccines, correction gene therapies had information that was vague and sketchy at best, including doublespeak. They tell us about the safety and efficacy, trouble is right at the end they then tell us safety and efficacy is to be determined in monitoring as they roll it out on millions.
For those who defend the jabs saying mRNA has been around a long time, it’s always good to point out if it worked and was so good pharma would have had it on the market making big bucks from it already.
Their insistence on focusing and using the spike when it is not how the immune system works to defeat illness should have had folk running for the hills.
Indeed, the mRNA platform as gene therapy (ie to make the body make deficient proteins) failed because the immune system recognizes self from non-self (even if the self has a genetic error). That's why they turned to use it as a 'vaccine' technology. The immune system is so complex and they're pretending it's all about antibodies but since most people's understanding is limited to that, they get away with it. At least live attenuated vaccines seek to train the immune system like a natural infection (but hopefully with reduced risk) but the mRNA is whole other thing...and not a good one.
You will be able to compare Ad5-nCoV in China and BBV154 in India. Both are replication-deficient adenovirus vaccines that encode the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Both countries are the first to authorize nasal C19 vaccines. Both have different epidemiological policies.
Does anyone know any non-replicating vaccine that was capable to vaccinate human population out of pandemic?
NCT04865237 demonstrated that: (i) exposure to SARS-CoV-2 (SC2) led to infection in 53% of participating young adults only, (ii) no serious adverse events were detected after deliberate exposure to SC2 subject to a respective clinical care. Results of NCT04864548 shall show implication in vaccinated and previously infected cohorts after a deliberate exposure to SC2. If the clinical trials confirm that SC2 is not virulent, and Covid-19 is easily curable disease, shall this suggest that significant harm of covid pandemic to the human population stems from within the population itself, instead of from the virus?
Locking people up in their houses and starving them to death works great! Starvation and suicide have saved so many people from Covid and even more horrifying fates, like cancer and listening to a Joe Biden speech.
Trump speeches are horrifying too.
Zero COVID policy doesn't work ... period. Not for China. Not for anyone. Any suggestion that it might supports the violations of human right used to try to achieve what is a totally nonsensical policy anyway. How a Dr could consider writing in support of such a policy, even vaguely, beggars belief. When natural immunity is more than capable of coping and there are totally effective treatment options possible, there is no case to suggest any type of "vaccine/gene therapy" is necessary. Let's stick to the proven science.
Part of the scientific approach is to observe outcomes and reflect on different strategies.
China has chosen to take this route, let us consider the longer term outcomes and utilize anything that may be of value.
Thanks for pointing this out Dr McMillan it will be interesting to see how China fares in its health outcomes in future years a lot better than Western Nations
You continue to defend the indefensible. The scientific approach has already observed human rights violations, has already observed that there are effective treatment regimes, and that natural immunity far exceeds anything produced by these gene therapies. We already know they were rushed through to temporary authorisation based on a false premise that there is no effective treatment, and the data has and is being corrupted. We already know the volume of adverse reactions and deaths far exceeds what has previously caused trials to stop, let alone public use. We already know that drugs like remdesivir are killing patients. Science dictates you intervene at the soonest indication it is required. This time passed many months ago. What exactly are you waiting to observe?
I wouldn't be too flippant towards China, if we all eventually succumb to long-covid conditions (due to repeat virus exposure) they might be the only able-bodied people left willing to change your diapers etc.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions that you have zero medical understanding. Only those who have been stupid enough to have had the jabs have damaged their immune system to that extent. The rest of us who rely on natural immunity and adequate intake of Vit D3 etc aren't at risk to anywhere near the same degree unless they keep rolling out more jabs that force the virus into an even more dangerous form, but even then, we're still better off with our innate immunity and getting proper treatment that has been known about all along.
Given that the CCP has been giving jabs like sweeties too, their population will be in no fit state either, especially after the coming real estate and economic collapse that's just around the corner. I'll let you hog the diapers, thanks... :-)
Oh, the popular misconception that only the jabs are bad...
It also lets the authorities off the hook who created it, let it spread, & deliberately botched up the response...
China didn't use the mRNA platform - & maybe (unlike the West) removed/modified the furin cleavage site & HIV inserts etc - as any sane authority would...
Any repetitive spike exposure is unfortunate - whether naturally or through the jibby jabbers. The natural way may be preferable - but should still be minimised if possible.
Like the meme I made a while back - you convince half the population to take a dodgy jab - & the other half that covid isn't dangerous... The end result is all the same...
We are nearly in agreement!
However, you maybe missed the fact that the GOF domains in strains subsequent to the initial SARS-CoV2 have dropped off as predicted by Prof Montagnier. You can breathe easier that prion promotion is not a risk from natural infection now - that was my biggest concern given that there is no safe level of prions. Auto-immune disease is far more likely from the jabs from what I can tell. This loss of GOF is further proof that the SP was man-made and engineered by the fact that nature does not maintain what is not truly natural.
I'm not saying that natural infection is not without any risk at all, but it is many times less so than the jabs, especially if you look after your health and don't have any comorbidities. The fact that a natural infection has to get past mucosal local immunity and systemic immunity to cause serious disease gives far greater chance of successfully fighting it off with only mild symptoms and no long term effects.
I have no intention of contracting SP from whichever source as much as I can prevent it, but not to the detriment of my health in other ways.
From what I've read the Chinese vaccine has very poor efficacy which is unsurprising given the past difficulties in bringing a coronavirus vaccine to market. They tried it for the initial SARS but it killed the experimental ferrets from ADE. I suspect if the CCP keep mandating more "boosters" then ADE will emerge there too.
The ONLY safe way to maximally minimise the risks is to stay unjabbed and keep taking your Vits and minerals etc.
"Zero COVID policy doesn't work .. ... period.."
It works at having zero covid, well almost :-)
If we end up with a 'mass-disabling event' due to covid sequelae - then it will be the West appealing to China for medical assistance. How ironic that would be....
These are big ifs, but personally, I wouldn't be too quick to write covid off as non-consequential...
You clearly have no medical background or understanding. Natural immunity is protective which makes zero-COVID unnecessary, and given that it is now endemic, impossible. It is eminently treatable and has always been if the treatment regimes hadn't been suppressed/banned. The lockdowns have been proven to be useless too. We don't need Chinese assistance - for what? The consequential aspect of COVID that we all need to recognise and stand up against is the totalitarian regime it threatens to usher in, with the excuse for control and loss of rights/freedoms. That is the most dangerous part of what is currently going on.
Strange how this doctor, in 2020, was featuring so many people who were into early treatment and then standard measures to deal with respiratory viruses and now he thinks maybe zero covid is worth it if it can avoid even mild illness? all the horror of zero covid because it's so important to make sure that no one ever catches this thing, even if almost everyone has the ability (if not messed with) to handle it and move on? wtf :(
Sweden already did the work for us. Lowest excess mortality in Europe. No masks, mandates, lockdowns, and limited passports if at all.
China is a dismal failure.
The only thing to ask is why are they doing it? Do they know something we don't?
Sweden has a more healthy population, takes supplementation very seriously & also has smaller households compared to other nations.... They also put their elderly in care to sleep...
So probably not the best role model...
China knows exactly the same as what our own Governments know - except that our Governments view us as more expendable...
Sweden always admitted they made a mistake with the elderly. My point is that they followed established epidemiological science and never closed their schools.
I'd say they're the better model of any of the nations.
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Mistake with the elderly or mass murder...?
Also, Sweden still had some restrictions & even masks for a period, if I remember correctly.
In the UK, it was a kind of 'pretend lockdown', with many schools still at half capacity (for so-called 'key workers') & production still going smoothly.
But the most imported point is that the nation apparently has the most single-person households in the world - so many people already lived in a kind of permanent state of lockdown - a bit like the metropolitan laptop elites in the UK/US etc...
Also, if we are really facing a long-term 'disabling event' due to Covid - then China's gamble has truly paid off.
UveBeenNUDGED must be a Chinese/WEF stooge or bot. There is no defence for the human rights infringements the CCP has imposed and "the end justifies the means" is the reason given by every totalitarian regime to justify their corruption and anti-human actions. It is not defensible.
Dr. Tegnell admitted they didn't move to protect the elderly fast enough and properly. Otherwise, their death rates would have been less.
Sweden had NOTHING like we had in the West. It was left to the people and none of it by way of mandates. They had some restrictions for a period like Norway but it didn't reach the absurd levels elsewhere. And even that led to concerns for loss of liberties in Sweden.
If you don't conduct a cost-benefit analysis, any assertions of China's lockdowns paying off is without base or fact.
Sure. Shut down the highway system. Accidents will go down. But at what cost? Lock her down. Like my highway analogy. You will be able to make a case hospitalizations or even deaths are down but if on the other side of the ledger it comes with destroyed businesses, suicides, missed surgeries etc. Where's the benefit? It becomes, as they say, the cure being worse than the disease. This is where Sweden was more prudent and wise.
It truly baffles me how we in the West stubbornly refuse to look at the trade-offs of lockdowns. Life is BUT about trade-offs.
If those images in China are true, living like caged animal to combat a respiratory illness is not only foolish but barbaric on levels I scant comprehend.
Alas, it all hinges on, as we've stated. what do they know we don't know? After all, the virus likely did come out of a lab in Wuhan. Maybe even Daszak and Fauci don't even know the extent of it. One guy who may know is Baric. But now we're treading onto another territory here.
Cheers.
Zero covid policy is no free lunch. Its human and economic cost to China should have been huge. Much much more than the one from a normal encounter with the virus like any other country. So it is not a policy for the future for any one. Technically it prevented the Chinese population from having any kind of natural protection from past exposures when Omicron struck them a few months ago ferociously. Their vaccine based protection from the past also had disappeared. Omicron had a free run, the population quickly got herd immunity that was enough to force Omicron withdraw as quickly as it stuck them. Technically, this was a classic example of a full scale, pure herd immunity at work. Very little fresh vaccinations would have taken place in that quick surge. On the face of it, China can claim to have had the last laugh. But it would not admit its horrendous cost. So next time, like Sweden, we should allow the infection to spread to generate quick herd immunity. But unlike Sweden, institute early effective treatments regimen, to take care of the sick.
China....hummmmm it's all so interesting....what more truths will show up? That's the thing..truth always finds it's way up to the top .... and then logic is there ..... what amazing times we are in
We already have a working mucosal defense system, that just needs proper support in the form of good nutrition (especially vitamin D and low carb diet), an unpolluted environment, and a healthy active life. 97% of people were immune to severe Covid19 due to previous coronavirus exposure and possibly SARS-Cov exposure. There were promising early treatments for those at risk, that merely needed government support for research and proving and scaling up. No vaccine was ever needed.
So China could be looking towards a bright future, while the rest of us could be facing long-term disability...
Imagine if the West had to rely on aid & medical support from China (& even Russia etc.) in the near future. How ironic that would be...
This man made “virus” has @ LEAST a 99.7% survivability for the vast majority of mankind. NONE of what was perpetrated by global elites (masks, distancing, lockdowns, “vaccination”) was @ all about public health or a “pandemic”. It was & is a scam & depopulation agenda.
Did the CCP hack your account?????
Although I am not in agreement with their approach, I am still interested in their outcomes.
Science is objective.
It doesn't matter what the outcomes are, science or no science. You don't lock people in their homes and deny them their God given rights.
This alleged God might give rights but people defend them or take them away. I agree lockdowns were wrong for this pandemic - only if the infection were like in the movie World War Z (100% fatal) or 55% fatal like Ebola i could support interim drastic measures. Especially until means of transmission was well understood and could be mitigated, which is the case for Ebola. In the case of SARS-Cov-2, the evidence showed since mid 2020 that there was no stopping transmission due to its aerosolized nature and low symptom incubation period.
"Alleged" God. Mkay. If you think lockdowns for anything are okay, I don't know what to tell you. Quarantining the sick is one thing. But, you don't imprison people because you're scared of risks.
Agree, quarantine the sick. You might also have to setup checkpoints to detect the sick who are travelling and spreading.
Nope
From what I understand, antigen-specific antibodies that generate in the mucosa are short-lived at best (as opposed to those that generate systemically as a result of viremia). The primary response to a coronavirus therefore appears to be cellular (NK cells and Tcells) not humoral . There are the broad-based innate antibodies at the mucosa, also. In addition to that, it seems the development of long-term immune memory (which would be the goal of vaccination) requires the activation of Tcells as well as the LINKED recognition of a bouquet of viral epitopes (primarily functionally-constrained proteins) via HLA receptor protein display of infected cells, interferon signaling, and apoptosis, by which the cellular contents of infected cells come into contact with Bcells at the mucosa and then, ultimately, the lymph nodes, (where the Tcells also activate Bcells). These mechanisms would not be sufficiently triggered through ANY replication-deficient vaccine, and would therefore be reliant upon adaptive antibodies, which do not seem to last and are neither sufficient or necessary to abrogate an infection.
So, while these mucosal vaccines might be less likely to be harmful from an AE standpoint, their effectiveness could be quite limited and here still might be issues of ADE or OAS if they do target a very narrow range of structural epitopes.
At this point, I would also think that due to random mutation and recombination (especially of the notorious spike), that SARS Cov2 has become, at least for the previously infected/recovered and likely for the uninfected/untransfected, nothing more than a common cold, like its relatives. Obviously, it is capable of causing repeated infections but is essentially harmless/more of a nuisance (and unlikely to to be ever "vaccinateable". Whether this bears out for the repeatedly boosted and transfected is another matter. Just a few thoughts based on my readings etc.
I’m no virologist, I do read the chemistry world magazine my other half gets due to his membership through work. Throughout the years I’ve read of many breakthroughs that have covered many layers of science.
Reading the articles about these vaccines, correction gene therapies had information that was vague and sketchy at best, including doublespeak. They tell us about the safety and efficacy, trouble is right at the end they then tell us safety and efficacy is to be determined in monitoring as they roll it out on millions.
For those who defend the jabs saying mRNA has been around a long time, it’s always good to point out if it worked and was so good pharma would have had it on the market making big bucks from it already.
Their insistence on focusing and using the spike when it is not how the immune system works to defeat illness should have had folk running for the hills.
Indeed, the mRNA platform as gene therapy (ie to make the body make deficient proteins) failed because the immune system recognizes self from non-self (even if the self has a genetic error). That's why they turned to use it as a 'vaccine' technology. The immune system is so complex and they're pretending it's all about antibodies but since most people's understanding is limited to that, they get away with it. At least live attenuated vaccines seek to train the immune system like a natural infection (but hopefully with reduced risk) but the mRNA is whole other thing...and not a good one.
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You will be able to compare Ad5-nCoV in China and BBV154 in India. Both are replication-deficient adenovirus vaccines that encode the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein. Both countries are the first to authorize nasal C19 vaccines. Both have different epidemiological policies.
Does anyone know any non-replicating vaccine that was capable to vaccinate human population out of pandemic?
No, but I did finally cave in and get a single dose of the Chinese Sinovac, a deactivated whole-virus type, to avoid the mRNA crap.
And I still had heart issues and a transient stroke with respiratory arrest. None of them are safe.
Hope you are getting better.
NCT04865237 demonstrated that: (i) exposure to SARS-CoV-2 (SC2) led to infection in 53% of participating young adults only, (ii) no serious adverse events were detected after deliberate exposure to SC2 subject to a respective clinical care. Results of NCT04864548 shall show implication in vaccinated and previously infected cohorts after a deliberate exposure to SC2. If the clinical trials confirm that SC2 is not virulent, and Covid-19 is easily curable disease, shall this suggest that significant harm of covid pandemic to the human population stems from within the population itself, instead of from the virus?