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Moro Balakrishnan's avatar

What is the basis for saying that obese covid -19 patients in high income countries had a lower mortality risk than the ones from lower income countries. First, most low income countries, atleast from early 2021, instituted early clinical treatments with classical URT medicines and repurposed anti virals like Ivermectin and HCQ, beating down quickly initial surges of delta and later Omicron. We all know that this did not happen in rich countries where early classical treatments were ignored and treatments in the serious phase in hospitalisation became a mess. Until today, this situation continues. Second the role of multiple m-RNA vaccinations in rich countries. It certainly must have caused some damage in obese patients. Poor countries remained poorly/moderately vaccinated and did not use m-RNA vaccines. So that is a factor. In my opinion, only cases exclusively pertaining to 2020 must be related to only infection in rich countries. From 2021, till now, it is all mixed biology, more dominated by vaccine effects, in those countries. It doesn’t make sense relating it to only the virus ( covid-19 illness). The work of both the virus and the vaccine were driven by spike proteins with similar behaviour and cell affinities. And people there in general received more revaccinations than getting reinfections.

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Alison Scott's avatar

Very interesting talk - thank you. Makes so much sense now for what I witnessed as I worked as a Critical Care Outreach Nurse during the first few years of Covid. I witnessed the 'happy hypoxics' which I had never come across in my 42 year career. I also took numerous patients to Critical Care during that time, mostly men and EVERYONE on them was obese, with most having diabetes,, +/- hypertensive. Sometimes it was a generalised obesity and sometimes it was the 'beer belly' type, but I never took a slim person to CRCU. The obesity was noticed by the whole critical care team - these patients were termed 'Covid shaped'. As I was already into Vitamin D and immunity I tried to also track vitamin D levels (often ordering bloods) and again never saw anyone with a decent vitamin D level in CRCU, but I also understand the obesity is often associated with vitamin D deficiency.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Really valuable information.

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Marianne's avatar

Obesity have low D vitamin allso...

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No One Knows's avatar

LISTENING TO Ray Peat and Dr. Mercola sounds also like linoleic acid is a major cause of insulin resistance or improper burning of blood sugar if i understand that correctly

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Very few people know about amylin and how it is connected to insulin resistance.

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Mama Bear's avatar

Thank you Dr. McMillan, this is very valuable information.

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