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Andy Bunting's avatar

The virus was & still is constantly evolving, mutating.

From the get go I was uncomfortable with any form of vaccine for treating this pandemic.

In layman's terms. Like trying to shoot, to hit a moving target.

The success rate for that is very low.

Almost from the very beginning, anyone questioning the official narrative was silenced.

The absolute basic foundation of any science is inquiry into causes & affects.

Without innovative, peer reviewed findings into research, in any branch of science.

There would be no scientific progress.

Dr McMillan is a true hero of truth regarding the current virus & the scare, terrify & keep terrified tactics.

These 2 guests are also heroic in their speaking out.

Silencing anyone not agreeing with the official narrative is at a minimum foolish.

At worst, as in silencing experts in their field such as these 3 heroes.

Now know the true EVIL intent, of whoever the, that they are controlling the so called "official narrative".

Way back to the very very ancient saying, " A prophet is often without honour in their own country."

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Sooty Proton's avatar

Thank you all so much - extremely clear and informative. Wishing Jennifer success and justice with her legal case.

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Guilherme's avatar

It was an excellent discussion. I would recommend everyone to watch the video with Bret Weinstein and Vanden Bossche. They bring us very relevant information too.

https://youtu.be/NY9Wrpw3igs

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ray's avatar

So much that we don't know about mRNA "vaccines" ; yet declared "SAFE". ???

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MarkRidge's avatar

A tremendous discussion amongst subject matter professionals.

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Mel's avatar

Maybe you can bring on Dr. Jennifer Smith on by herself sometime as she is very respectful and knowledgeable, really brainy, lets others speak. I’d really like to hear more from her specifically. Thanks, Dr. McMillan. 40 minutes in and we’ve barely been able to hear from her!

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john h abeles md's avatar

I apologise if you thought I was crowding out Jennifer; you’re right about her knowledge and skills

Sometimes it is difficult in these media teleconferences to hear someone when you are speaking and that may account for your impression that I was ignoring her

I think all in all, though, that she had similar time of speaking to mine

Warmth

JHA

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Mel's avatar

That’s ok, John. I enjoy hearing you too. It just seems like the last two times I’ve seen Jennifer speak in a group of men, she waits very patiently and often doesn’t get much in- after the 40 minute mark here in this interview, she finally got to say some really important things. I’d like to hear an interview with her by herself so she can have the floor for a while. Cheers, John.

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OLDCLONE's avatar

Dr John:

You are indeed a gentleman.

It's more important how to treat a disease than listen to all the Ph.d's argue ad infinitum over hypothesis or theories.. I'll grant you Dr. Jennifer may be an exception to the rule.

Your understanding of this problem far exceeds those who don't treat patients.

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john h abeles md's avatar

Thanks for the comments

I myself have a PhD in pharmacology and and very respectful of the non clinical scientists whose hypotheses and experiments to confirm or deny them are all important in the medical science that guides and informs medical practice

The important point is that no legitimate opinions, ideas, hypotheses or body of data should be dismissed out of hand , suppressed, censored, or cancelled - science truth is discovered as a dialectic, a mobile conversation and debate where all legitimate ideas and discoveries can be aired

The sad situation is that this ideal is being subverted these days by the “experts” , the government and its agencies, the mainstream media and worst of all, academia - all held in thrall to the financial might of big Pharma

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Helen Ryan's avatar

Excellent, information and interesting discussion. Unfortunately a very large number of people are still so hypnotized by the narrative that their minds are closed.

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Siraz21's avatar

And did the FDA just approve these jabs to infant 6 month and older? What are your thoughts on this, thank you!

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Unnecessary gamble.

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Siraz21's avatar

Do we have any data on side effect profiles sputnik or sinovac? They are live attenuated vaccines, right? However they still use the spike protein as the pathogen, correct?

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krishna e bera's avatar

if they are live attenuated, the whole virus is present

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Kari's avatar

It's a shame we can't go back 2 1/2 years and let the science people give their expert advise to the world and not big pharm with their agenda of profit at any cost. Which is still going on and on and on.

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Mary's avatar

Great presentation. Thank You.

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