A very clear discussion - thanks! One addition - they aren't simply fighting hyenas. Both communities also fight other predators (cancers). The second is having severe problems with mucosal immunity, in part due to a severe imbalance in IGg4.
My smartass comment : security system run by Big Pharma in the "advanced" community.
Nov 20, 2023·edited Nov 20, 2023Liked by Dr Philip McMillan
For IgG4 I might add to the parable that the villagers eventually became tired of waking up in the night to the sound of the alarms, so they attempted to domesticate the hyenas by giving them all dog collars and free run of their houses.
I liked the artwork and story. The only thing I would add is something about how the village shaman was the brother-in-law of the guy who made the electric fence and it was so expense that they had to sell all the children of the village into slavery to pay for it.
I have said this before in another podcast of yours - there is no hybrid immunity in this pandemic, more so after Omicron appeared in late 2021 and its variants have been carrying the day until now. Immunity in the context of a vaccine is about preventing one from getting infected in the first place. These vaccines were not capable of this. So the only immunity that people can have against fresh infection is from an earlier infection with the same virus. Here too, the vaccines downgrade that immunity. Also these vaccines are pointless against the Omicrons, no job to do. What we have in highly vaccinated countries ( repeat vaccinated) is mostly degraded natural immunity originally acquired from infection. So, the pictures are only conjectural, not a representation of reality.
Some months ago, there was an essay in The Atlantic on these immunities, with a small story in the beginning of the dog (vaccine) trying to hunt down the rabbit (virus), there were contexts of hybrid immunity in the essay. I wrote to the Editor modifying the story line. I told there is a sniper ( natural immunity) also in hiding to take down the rabbit ( virus). As the dog (vaccine) keeps chasing the fleet footed rabbit (virus) and unable to catch it, the dog (vaccine) is also preventing the sniper (natural immunity) to take a good aim. I added that the story will have a desired ending only if the dog (vaccine) is withdrawn from the hunt it is not capable of. Thrilled by a false security now of not being chased by the dog (vaccine), the rabbit ( virus) will begin taking a rest ( i.e. not constantly changing position or constantly changing variants). Now the sniper (natural immunity) has the best chance to take correct aim and bring down the rabbit (virus). Happy ending. Get the dog ( vaccine) out of the way. I did not know if the paper published this, but I did not get any response from the Editor or the Columnist. No hybrid immunity character in this modified story. You can give the role of mucosal membrane also to the sniper (natural immunity) and say that the rabbit (virus) knows the presence, but avoids coming in front of him while it keeps changing positions rapidly under the dog’s (vaccine) chase. Hope you all like this story.
It seems - as for now - it answers the questions why I am always getting infections over the past decades ( I am 59 ) because my mucosal immunity was and is weak. Otherwise I am healthy at least until now and judged by yearly check-ups (which are not more than an indication - classic school medicine is still stone-age when it comes to early detection of cancers in my view). So I get the flu once or twice a year with pretty nasty symptoms and a caugh lasting for 6 - 8 weeks and in order to completely resolve it takes a total of 8 - 10 weeks. Many others are sick as well but do not suffer so much and get rid of it in less than half of the time. So you can imagine that I contracted also SARS CoV2 twice (June 20 and Jan 22 :-)). No mRNA vaccination, no influenca vaccination - I feel that my immune system needs that shitty infection although I hate it because it really makes life difficult for some weeks. Otherwise I feel fit, go to the gym, lift (heavy) weights and can compete with 99 % of the much younger ones. It is not that I overtrain - i can rule that out because I learned from the past . . . . . so it just seems that (only ?) my mucosal immunity is the weak point - not the rest of the "hybrid immune system". Now lets see what the Pandemic taught me and if my new strategy can improve something on that: I have started taking VIT D/K2 to be well above 30 ng/dl D3, I started to sleep more (7h at least) and I started to take supplements daily so in order to rule out any "mal-nutrition" because all our food has become less "nutritive" - starting with cereal flowers where even bakers complain that they have difficulty in making bread due to reduced protein/Gluten content. We also know that a lot of food and vegetables have strongly reduced minerals, vitamins due to mass-production, gene-manipulation etc. etc.. And since I do a lot of sports I need more nutrients than the average human - I guess. So let me see what all that new strategies will do on improvement of mucosal immunity and the next-level defenses in my body. One thing I already noted: For 55 years I had severe pollen-allergy (grass pollen) mid to end of April every year. Usually I got a cortisone-shot (40mg) and that helped me over the worst period. This year for the first time - I had NO, NO signs of that allergy anymore. Not even one sneezer from it.The only difference in my life-style, diet was the supplementation of VIT D3 (2.000 - 3.000 i.U./day) which I started before the winter season 2022/23. Let me see if that is a repeatable effect also for the next pollen season.
Analogies are never perfect. The village model is nice because it is a living system just like our bodies are living colonies. I wonder how you would fit in the youth with their total dependence on natural immunity and how that changes with natural aging and the unnatural interventions humans are doing.
This is a great and clear way of explaining natural immunity. Even my grandchild of 9 understand this story and my mother of 96. The first community acts quiet and without fear. The second is fearfull in my opinion. Telling that this fear has great influence on immunity is maybe a good place to give attention to. Thanks. Riet
A very clear discussion - thanks! One addition - they aren't simply fighting hyenas. Both communities also fight other predators (cancers). The second is having severe problems with mucosal immunity, in part due to a severe imbalance in IGg4.
My smartass comment : security system run by Big Pharma in the "advanced" community.
Brilliant 👏
For IgG4 I might add to the parable that the villagers eventually became tired of waking up in the night to the sound of the alarms, so they attempted to domesticate the hyenas by giving them all dog collars and free run of their houses.
Great point.
That may be another story.
Wow, that's impressive and pretty spot-on!
I liked the artwork and story. The only thing I would add is something about how the village shaman was the brother-in-law of the guy who made the electric fence and it was so expense that they had to sell all the children of the village into slavery to pay for it.
Goodness!
Harsh but probably true.
The in-law family outside the village breed hyenas as attack animals ;)
I have said this before in another podcast of yours - there is no hybrid immunity in this pandemic, more so after Omicron appeared in late 2021 and its variants have been carrying the day until now. Immunity in the context of a vaccine is about preventing one from getting infected in the first place. These vaccines were not capable of this. So the only immunity that people can have against fresh infection is from an earlier infection with the same virus. Here too, the vaccines downgrade that immunity. Also these vaccines are pointless against the Omicrons, no job to do. What we have in highly vaccinated countries ( repeat vaccinated) is mostly degraded natural immunity originally acquired from infection. So, the pictures are only conjectural, not a representation of reality.
Thank you.
Some months ago, there was an essay in The Atlantic on these immunities, with a small story in the beginning of the dog (vaccine) trying to hunt down the rabbit (virus), there were contexts of hybrid immunity in the essay. I wrote to the Editor modifying the story line. I told there is a sniper ( natural immunity) also in hiding to take down the rabbit ( virus). As the dog (vaccine) keeps chasing the fleet footed rabbit (virus) and unable to catch it, the dog (vaccine) is also preventing the sniper (natural immunity) to take a good aim. I added that the story will have a desired ending only if the dog (vaccine) is withdrawn from the hunt it is not capable of. Thrilled by a false security now of not being chased by the dog (vaccine), the rabbit ( virus) will begin taking a rest ( i.e. not constantly changing position or constantly changing variants). Now the sniper (natural immunity) has the best chance to take correct aim and bring down the rabbit (virus). Happy ending. Get the dog ( vaccine) out of the way. I did not know if the paper published this, but I did not get any response from the Editor or the Columnist. No hybrid immunity character in this modified story. You can give the role of mucosal membrane also to the sniper (natural immunity) and say that the rabbit (virus) knows the presence, but avoids coming in front of him while it keeps changing positions rapidly under the dog’s (vaccine) chase. Hope you all like this story.
Like in real life, when hyenas continue and re-enter, people become careless and believe the danger is not too bad - they give up their defenses.
Example: How many got infected with HIV after a worldwide warning?
Still, we cannot stop warning and educating.
It seems - as for now - it answers the questions why I am always getting infections over the past decades ( I am 59 ) because my mucosal immunity was and is weak. Otherwise I am healthy at least until now and judged by yearly check-ups (which are not more than an indication - classic school medicine is still stone-age when it comes to early detection of cancers in my view). So I get the flu once or twice a year with pretty nasty symptoms and a caugh lasting for 6 - 8 weeks and in order to completely resolve it takes a total of 8 - 10 weeks. Many others are sick as well but do not suffer so much and get rid of it in less than half of the time. So you can imagine that I contracted also SARS CoV2 twice (June 20 and Jan 22 :-)). No mRNA vaccination, no influenca vaccination - I feel that my immune system needs that shitty infection although I hate it because it really makes life difficult for some weeks. Otherwise I feel fit, go to the gym, lift (heavy) weights and can compete with 99 % of the much younger ones. It is not that I overtrain - i can rule that out because I learned from the past . . . . . so it just seems that (only ?) my mucosal immunity is the weak point - not the rest of the "hybrid immune system". Now lets see what the Pandemic taught me and if my new strategy can improve something on that: I have started taking VIT D/K2 to be well above 30 ng/dl D3, I started to sleep more (7h at least) and I started to take supplements daily so in order to rule out any "mal-nutrition" because all our food has become less "nutritive" - starting with cereal flowers where even bakers complain that they have difficulty in making bread due to reduced protein/Gluten content. We also know that a lot of food and vegetables have strongly reduced minerals, vitamins due to mass-production, gene-manipulation etc. etc.. And since I do a lot of sports I need more nutrients than the average human - I guess. So let me see what all that new strategies will do on improvement of mucosal immunity and the next-level defenses in my body. One thing I already noted: For 55 years I had severe pollen-allergy (grass pollen) mid to end of April every year. Usually I got a cortisone-shot (40mg) and that helped me over the worst period. This year for the first time - I had NO, NO signs of that allergy anymore. Not even one sneezer from it.The only difference in my life-style, diet was the supplementation of VIT D3 (2.000 - 3.000 i.U./day) which I started before the winter season 2022/23. Let me see if that is a repeatable effect also for the next pollen season.
Analogies are never perfect. The village model is nice because it is a living system just like our bodies are living colonies. I wonder how you would fit in the youth with their total dependence on natural immunity and how that changes with natural aging and the unnatural interventions humans are doing.
The root cause?!
https://thedrardisshow.com/the-antidote
This is a great and clear way of explaining natural immunity. Even my grandchild of 9 understand this story and my mother of 96. The first community acts quiet and without fear. The second is fearfull in my opinion. Telling that this fear has great influence on immunity is maybe a good place to give attention to. Thanks. Riet