Fauci was on video announcing that there would be a pandemic during Trumps term of office.
Dr David E. Martin has hard evidence that C19 was engineered in a bioweapons lab, intentionally released and that they already had an injectable therapy waiting, all paid for with US tax dollars. Motivated by money and a view that the world is over populated your government sales teams created the fear which was then hyped up by MSM for the sale of billions of shots.
Interesting interview, I think Susan is right that there is no proof that the mRNA vaccine saved any lives. Is there are way to follow Susan ? Substack etc.
The purpose of pharmaceutical companies is to ensure profits for shareholders by bringing products to the market. These companies do not aim curing illnesses or ensuring the availability of only safe products. Do not expect it from them. Physicians are responsible for curing people, while regulatory agencies supervise the safety of products. However, when physicians are not allowed to perform their work because a drug is directly mandated by politicians, and when regulatory agencies fail to supervise drug safety due to the political need for only impressive solutions, there are two winners in this situation: pharma and politicians. The former achieves their profits, and the latter gains more power. It should be admitted that both were excellent in pursuits of their aims recently.
However, success of the society is measured by achievements of more groups than only successful ones because the success is often gained from hidden costs that usually can only be foreseen and are consequences of the apparent initial success.
In order to elaborate more on regulatory matters, it could be worth to invite some expert to talk about distinction between gene therapy and vaccines; elaborate on regulatory requirements for gene therapy products (GTP), vaccines, pro-drugs; and explain why even limited number of requirements for GTPs (since it affects small number of people with genetic disorders) were not applied to new mRNA vaccines, etc. Helene Banoun from France or Niek Sanders from Gent University could be interesting guests, if they speak English.
This interview is one more nail in the coffin of manipulation of a public health crisis for corporate profits and power, being the first in the well known 100 plus years old history of such crisis. These four years have been a great damage done and the parties responsible are not going to admit or express regret. If one has followed closely the public’s response to the course of the pandemic in 2023 in particular, one can be confident they will not be fooled again. The administrations will have to go back to the proven methods of approaching an epidemic, including vaccine developments and their public deployment. Researchers, including those funded by public, must now look ahead and work to plug the gaps in our understanding of this virus, the illness, treatment options with repurposed drugs and even the performance of the vaccines with an eye on future needs. Three critical points come to my mind immediately. First, the m-RNA technology must be thoroughly evaluated from its basics both for prevention ( vaccine) and treatment purposes ( new drugs) and on issues like long term safety and efficacy. The same rigours that one would follow for establishing uses of genetic engineering or nuclear technology must be followed and enforced. It cannot be a technology that can be pressed into service on the go, like these vaccines. The Nobel laureates should take the lead. Second, after struggle in the initial months, how did over two thirds of humanity subdued this virus rather effortlessly with classical respiratory medicines and repurposed ones like Ivermectin and to some extent HCQ, using them both as prophylactics and therapeutics. Yes, doctors made very good clinical judgements in using them and there has been quite some published work in the past on the biological chemistry of many of these drugs as possible anti virals. But researchers must establish more clearly the mechanisms behind their success. In fact, the chemistry of many more and hundreds of common drugs from many indications provide them this versatility. In essence, taking repurposing to a new level - not just for viral infections, but for many many known diseases and conditions. The world needs affordable treatments now more than ever and this is how it can happen. And it is also how the self interest of big pharma at the expense of common patients can be contained. Whoever can, please focus on repurposing research. Third, one third of humanity, mostly of the Western nations, must introspect seriously why they ignored the success of two thirds of humanity and fell into this virus pit, still struggling to come up after four years. Any medicinal success is a common good and the world must accept/ embrace them, no matter where it came from. Look at improvements if there is scope, but don’t reject the effort. As a gesture of acknowledgment of this effort and success, third world countries must be collectively given a Nobel in Medicine this year. They have shown the real value of repurposed drugs.
That was a very useful interview. I don't question Susan's sincerity, but I'm not totally convinced that her faith in traditional vaccines is fully justified. Given what we've learned about the correlation between serious side-effects, including the explosion in autism diagnosis, that have accompanied a similar expansion of the childhood vaccine schedule and the money made from it, the whole question needs careful reexamination.
Vaccines for particular occupational risks or for travel to where a serious disease is endemic are one thing. The 70-plus shot schedule now established for US children is another.
I have updated the information regarding change in vaccine definition and manipulation of regulations discussed in this interview. Check me out on Twitter for details.
Excellent interview and thank you so much for the valuable information presented. On the promotion of regular childhood vaccines may I recommend a book worth attention. "Turtles All The Way Down Vaccine Science and Myth" edited by Zoey O'Toole and Mary Holland. It is highly referenced, informative and what I consider valued public health education for all.
I too was dismayed to find Langlois still believes in traditional childhood vaccines. Many studies show what she describes about Covid ‒ diseases more often than not die out naturally. Polio had subsided dramatically long before the vaccines came out. "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History by Susan Humphries, MD & R. Bystrianyk, 2013,2015 examines the assumption that medical intervention prevented resurgence of plagues.
Spot on Susan Langlois.
Fauci was on video announcing that there would be a pandemic during Trumps term of office.
Dr David E. Martin has hard evidence that C19 was engineered in a bioweapons lab, intentionally released and that they already had an injectable therapy waiting, all paid for with US tax dollars. Motivated by money and a view that the world is over populated your government sales teams created the fear which was then hyped up by MSM for the sale of billions of shots.
P**zer made $100 billion in 2022.
Happy New Year. Stay safe and effective. 🙏
Interesting interview, I think Susan is right that there is no proof that the mRNA vaccine saved any lives. Is there are way to follow Susan ? Substack etc.
She is on Twitter.
It was very difficult to find where to put a comment or a like.
I would like you to address the world health Organisation agenda that will start to be effective in may 2024 if not repped by our governments
Perhaps this can be addressed on a subsequent discussion. There is too much to cover in a comment.
Agreed but soon as we only have a few weeks to get our government to repel what will be the end of our freedom.
The purpose of pharmaceutical companies is to ensure profits for shareholders by bringing products to the market. These companies do not aim curing illnesses or ensuring the availability of only safe products. Do not expect it from them. Physicians are responsible for curing people, while regulatory agencies supervise the safety of products. However, when physicians are not allowed to perform their work because a drug is directly mandated by politicians, and when regulatory agencies fail to supervise drug safety due to the political need for only impressive solutions, there are two winners in this situation: pharma and politicians. The former achieves their profits, and the latter gains more power. It should be admitted that both were excellent in pursuits of their aims recently.
However, success of the society is measured by achievements of more groups than only successful ones because the success is often gained from hidden costs that usually can only be foreseen and are consequences of the apparent initial success.
Thank you for highlighting unseen consequences!
Wise words Janis.
In order to elaborate more on regulatory matters, it could be worth to invite some expert to talk about distinction between gene therapy and vaccines; elaborate on regulatory requirements for gene therapy products (GTP), vaccines, pro-drugs; and explain why even limited number of requirements for GTPs (since it affects small number of people with genetic disorders) were not applied to new mRNA vaccines, etc. Helene Banoun from France or Niek Sanders from Gent University could be interesting guests, if they speak English.
Perhaps an international panel would be a good idea due to the difference in regulations in USA, Canada and Europe.
Definitely
Thank you Susan and Dr. McMillan. We need a "Stand Up Together and Have A Say Day" global campaign.
Appreciated.
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This interview is one more nail in the coffin of manipulation of a public health crisis for corporate profits and power, being the first in the well known 100 plus years old history of such crisis. These four years have been a great damage done and the parties responsible are not going to admit or express regret. If one has followed closely the public’s response to the course of the pandemic in 2023 in particular, one can be confident they will not be fooled again. The administrations will have to go back to the proven methods of approaching an epidemic, including vaccine developments and their public deployment. Researchers, including those funded by public, must now look ahead and work to plug the gaps in our understanding of this virus, the illness, treatment options with repurposed drugs and even the performance of the vaccines with an eye on future needs. Three critical points come to my mind immediately. First, the m-RNA technology must be thoroughly evaluated from its basics both for prevention ( vaccine) and treatment purposes ( new drugs) and on issues like long term safety and efficacy. The same rigours that one would follow for establishing uses of genetic engineering or nuclear technology must be followed and enforced. It cannot be a technology that can be pressed into service on the go, like these vaccines. The Nobel laureates should take the lead. Second, after struggle in the initial months, how did over two thirds of humanity subdued this virus rather effortlessly with classical respiratory medicines and repurposed ones like Ivermectin and to some extent HCQ, using them both as prophylactics and therapeutics. Yes, doctors made very good clinical judgements in using them and there has been quite some published work in the past on the biological chemistry of many of these drugs as possible anti virals. But researchers must establish more clearly the mechanisms behind their success. In fact, the chemistry of many more and hundreds of common drugs from many indications provide them this versatility. In essence, taking repurposing to a new level - not just for viral infections, but for many many known diseases and conditions. The world needs affordable treatments now more than ever and this is how it can happen. And it is also how the self interest of big pharma at the expense of common patients can be contained. Whoever can, please focus on repurposing research. Third, one third of humanity, mostly of the Western nations, must introspect seriously why they ignored the success of two thirds of humanity and fell into this virus pit, still struggling to come up after four years. Any medicinal success is a common good and the world must accept/ embrace them, no matter where it came from. Look at improvements if there is scope, but don’t reject the effort. As a gesture of acknowledgment of this effort and success, third world countries must be collectively given a Nobel in Medicine this year. They have shown the real value of repurposed drugs.
That was a very useful interview. I don't question Susan's sincerity, but I'm not totally convinced that her faith in traditional vaccines is fully justified. Given what we've learned about the correlation between serious side-effects, including the explosion in autism diagnosis, that have accompanied a similar expansion of the childhood vaccine schedule and the money made from it, the whole question needs careful reexamination.
Vaccines for particular occupational risks or for travel to where a serious disease is endemic are one thing. The 70-plus shot schedule now established for US children is another.
I have updated the information regarding change in vaccine definition and manipulation of regulations discussed in this interview. Check me out on Twitter for details.
Appreciated Susan.
I am new here (as a signed member) , I have been watching your audience and influence grow from the early days. I applaud you.
Thank you very much.
Thanks For Sharing this outstanding . discussion Dr McMillan and a big thank you to Susan 🙏
Appreciated.
Amazing conversation Dr. McMillan! You find the most fantastic people that few others interview.
Thank you.
Excellent interview and thank you so much for the valuable information presented. On the promotion of regular childhood vaccines may I recommend a book worth attention. "Turtles All The Way Down Vaccine Science and Myth" edited by Zoey O'Toole and Mary Holland. It is highly referenced, informative and what I consider valued public health education for all.
Thanks Dr McMillan
I too was dismayed to find Langlois still believes in traditional childhood vaccines. Many studies show what she describes about Covid ‒ diseases more often than not die out naturally. Polio had subsided dramatically long before the vaccines came out. "Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and the Forgotten History by Susan Humphries, MD & R. Bystrianyk, 2013,2015 examines the assumption that medical intervention prevented resurgence of plagues.