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JAMES LYONS WEILER SUBSTACK HAITI

The Haitian Experiment: How One Nation Quietly Absorbed a Pandemic Without Collapse

https://popularrationalism.substack.com/p/the-haitian-experiment-how-one-nation

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https://archive.is/gwW05

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Jon Erling Edvardsen's avatar

That was a very well written article. Thank you. I am quoting from parts of point IX:

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A study conducted in Port-au-Prince found a SARS-CoV-2 antibody seroprevalence of 26.6% by December 2020. This means that at least one in four people had already been infected—without widespread testing, hospitalization, or deaths being recorded. If underreporting was an issue, it was not hiding catastrophe. It was hiding success.

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- It was hiding success.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

I wrote to Dr Steven Pelech at Kinexus laboratory in April Dr Pelech is working on publishing the outcome of his study for peer review, which went on for three years plus if I remember correctly. His people were still immune three years later and like with Sars1 and other viruses they are still immune. He says like other viruses immune memory lasts for life.

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“ We had the technology at Kinexus that we could recreate the entire virus in pieces, and with those pieces looked to see what parts of the 28 proteins encoded by that virus people make antibodies against.

So we went about fragmenting the genome of this virus, again 28 genes, into 8,000 pieces and we tested people who had covid 19 early in the pandemic and we found hundreds of pieces that actually have an antibody response. And what we found was 90% of the people that we tested right in the spring of 2020 had antibodies against the SARS CoV2.

So contrary to the impression that we were given that this virus arrived sometime in march 2020 actually 3/4 of the 45 hundred people that we tested, of which a third had covid 19 symptoms, had it prior to the end of march 2020.”

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Kinexus Laboratory

http://www.kinexusproducts.ca/

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🎥 DR STEVEN PELECH

SARS-COV-2 Antibody Testing Explained

https://rumble.com/v1meq4a-sars-cov-2-antibody-testing.html

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Jon Erling Edvardsen's avatar

Thank you! I watched the video. The vaccine is targeting the spike protein. Natural immunity recognizes the whole virus. You should test for antibodies before taking the booster (his point).

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

You can have no antibodies and still be immune once immune memory is established. Antibodies wane and can be NEGATIVE but memory cells remain.

https://mega.nz/folder/h60ECLbR#eV4PeG6DIK5dbpRF8QSN2Q

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DJ_Wight's avatar

A very interesting question that makes me happy to have gone on supporting this substack.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Appreciated.

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Collapse Life's avatar

You're asking the question that dare not be asked...

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

It needs to be answered.

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Jim Beam's avatar

it has been answered

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Collapse Life's avatar

Absolutely! And as you say, the fact that there is ZERO scientific curiosity around this is very, very telling. It has been this way since day one. I worked at a journalism outfit during COVID and when reporters heard that IVM was being used in a prison system in Mississippi, not one of them said 'oh, I wonder what the results are like in that system?' are they doing better or worse than other areas?' It was instantly politicized and almost immediately became a 'third rail' issue that could not be touched.

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Peter Halligan's avatar

Good work!

It would be great to get your take on Augmented NAC.

Removes 99.8% of spike protein and 60% of clots.

https://peterhalligan.substack.com/p/success-a-3-month-cure-for-spike augmented NAC - Three cheers!

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Understand the hype, but my research suggests it is not so simple.

No shortcuts available here.

Everything helps but nothing is the solution.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

Since there was no Covid virus, not taking the Covid weapon is a bonus.

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Ollie's avatar

After exposing to the world that the 500k nasal test swabs "donated" to Haiti were pre-contaminated an assassins bullet took the life of then President Jovenel Moïse.

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Jon Erling Edvardsen's avatar

Do you have a source?

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Ollie's avatar

My memory.

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Stuart Hutt's avatar

Since there was no Covid virus, not taking the Covid weapon is a bonus.

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Moro Balakrishnan's avatar

In my view, the answer to the title question is not rocket science. No need for international conferences to infer a lesson from this experience of one small poor nation. No or low vaccination means : 1) no external, synthetic, souring

interference to the naturally acquired exposure based immunity, pure herd immunity 2) no new variants cropping up every two months, particularly in the Omicron range. The proliferation of variants was the device of the virus to dodge vaccine effects. The exposure remained fairly constant or with minimal variants. Leaving the natural immunity to take hold.

There is no denying the fact that Ivermectin, diethyl carbamazine ( DEC), Fenbendazole etc provided the population prophylactic security. This was the experience in a substantial underprivileged population of the world, a providence effect to save them. According to experts like Dr. Shankara Chetty, these drugs will flush out the dead cellular debris chocking the lungs in the second phase of the disease, which means slightly severe patients could be treated as outpatients, without needing hospitalisation. Surely, previous exposure to such drugs, prevented in the first place any scope for chocked lungs.

Knowingly or unknowingly, Haiti and other such nations taught the world the value of simple clinical thinking. Knowingly or unknowingly, the rich nations ignored this lesson and paid heavy penalty. The practice of medicine is as much about the disease and drug awareness as the actual successful experiences. It does not matter where those experiences came from, as long as they are supported by credible science.

Does the paper mention the drugs used by the doctors there for their patients ? Were there open prescriptions issued by health authorities at some stage to facilitate OTC medicines. This was so in India as the delta ravaged the country until about mid 2021.

Azithromycin, Montelukast, Levocetrizine, Ivermectin, vit D, Zinc etc were part of such prescriptions. People could buy them off the shelf. For the poor, there was free distribution of these from Govt hospitals and community health centres. As part of early treatments. When the first in a family took these, his viral build up was substantially contained. He was no longer a spreader in the family, who were simultaneously gaining natural immunity from passive exposure. Multiplied over hundreds of household, this was stopping the spread.

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James Kringlee's avatar

As Haiti so Papua New Guinea had ongoing mass treatment for lymphatic filariasis prior to covid. Papua New Guinea was also in the areas of the world - China / Asia Pacific / areas of Africa - with prior immunity to the "pandemic" sars-cov2s, up to the release of the Delta variant, from exposure to an early release chinese sars-cov2.

see The Ethical Skeptic, “China’s CCP Concealed SARS-CoV-2 Presence in China as Far Back as March 2018”; (article was 91 pages + 10 pages of references + 27 pages of comments for a total of 128 pages to print it to PDF).

... note: PAPUA NEW GUINEA has an ongoing program treating their population for a mosquito borne illness using a 3 drug mix which includes ivermectin

Papua New Guinea steps up efforts to eliminate lymphatic filariasis

28 September 2021Departmental news Geneva Reading time: 5 min (1260 words)

" In November 2017, WHO issued a new recommendation on triple-drug therapy – a combination of albendazole, DEC and ivermectin, called IDA – because clinical studies showed that this regimen – a combination of albendazole and DEC or albendazole and ivermectin – is more effective than the conventional 2-drug therapy. IDA has an impact on adult worms living in the human body and requires no more than 2 rounds of MDA to interrupt transmission."

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Cruising Economist's avatar

Because COVID posed no meaningful risk of mortality for the vast majority as was perfectly clear from infection fatality rate research available by mid 2020 (zero risk for healthy children). I know because, knowing corporate media is deceitful politicized trash, I took a little time to examine a couple of studies very early on. All one needed was a reasonable grasp of grade school math to understand the results.

The scary thing was witnessing how easily a large percentage of the population was bamboozled and the resultant hysteria. Absolutely bizarre.

SHAME on most doctors for failing so miserably to inform those who trusted them that they needn't be fearful and they absolutely shouldn't get injected with a radical new technology that had no medium or long term track record of testing. Medical "professionals" have destroyed their once considerable credibility.

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Robin Whittle's avatar

Please see the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/.

While Haitians have black or very dark skin, their near equatorial location (18° N) , poverty and lack of Islam (which tends to cloak women head to toe) probably means they get significant UV-B to the deeper layers of the skin where it breaks a carbon bond in one of the rings of 7-dehydrocholesterol, forming vitamin D3.

The immune system needs at least 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L) circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D (calcifediol, AKA "calcidiol") to function properly. This is made, primarily in the liver, by hydroxylating about 1/4 of ingested or UV-B produced vitamin D3 cholecalciferol. This is what is measured in "vitamin D" blood tests. The above page has recommendations on how much vitamin D3 to supplement, on average, per day, to attain at least 50 ng/mL after a few months, without risk of toxicity and without the need for blood tests or medical monitoring. These recommendations, from New Jersey based Professor of Medicine, Sunil Wimalawansa, are expressed as ratios of body weight, with higher ratios for those suffering from obesity. For 70 kg body weight without obesity, 125 micrograms (5000 IU) a day is a good amount. This is 5 or more times what many doctors and all governments recommend - but these doctors and the government recommendations are only aiming to attain about 20 ng/mL (50 nmol/L), which is what the kidneys need to play their part in regulating calcium-phosphate-bone metabolism.

Generally countries near the equator had less trouble with COVID-19 than those far away.

Severe COVID-19 involves rampant inflammatory immune responses - indiscriminate cell destruction which has evolved primarily or entirely to tackle multicellular parasites such as intestinal worms AKA helminths.

Helminths long ago (tens of millions of years) evolved compounds which they exude and which downmodulate these inflammatory immune responses which target them. Humans - and mammals in general - evolved, in response to ubiquitous helminth infection, an overly strong, potentially self-destructive, propensity for inflammatory responses to counter this downmodulation.

Now, humans who do not have helminth infections are prone to excessive inflammation, with considerable variation between individuals according to the various versions of the genes which encode this. See the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/06-adv/.

If Haitians commonly have helminth infections, this would reduce their average proclivity towards extreme, harmful or deadly, inflammatory responses.

So this is two potential - likely - mechanisms why they may have had trouble with COVID-19, though the lack of helminths only reduces the risk of severe symptoms, and not the rate of infection or transmission.

Widespread use of ivermectin would have a very strong effect on the severity of infection and so on the average number of virus particles shed - and so on transmission and the overall number of people infected.

It is also possible that exposure to other viruses may have conferred some degree of immunity to SARS-CoV-2.

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Jim Beam's avatar

dude, you're missing the obvious here. THE VACCINES RAISE INFECTION AND MORALITY RATE. What occurred in Haiti occurred in Africa and the whole world. Go look at the WHO covid dashboard and you'll see it'

s very clear- more vaccinations= more sickness and death

Covid was created to scare people into taking the vaccine. This is the beginning of global depopulation and it won't stop until 6.5 billion of us are dead or the world stops the banking clans from carrying their plans out.

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Lets not forget too that Haiti's population is very close to both the Caribbean Sea and Atlantic Ocean.

The oxygen levels are high at sea sites because the surface layer of the ocean is teeming with photosynthetic plankton. Though they're invisible to the naked eye, they produce more oxygen than the largest redwoods. Scientists estimate that roughly half of the oxygen production on Earth comes from the ocean². The majority of this production is from oceanic plankton — drifting plants, algae, and some bacteria that can photosynthesize. One particular species, Prochlorococcus, is the smallest photosynthetic

organism on Earth. But this

little bacteria produces up to

20% of the oxygen in our

entire biosphere². That’s a

higher percentage than all of

the tropical rainforests on

land combined.

Oxygenated bodies fared

better during the plandemic.

Even those said to "have Covid" (seasonal flu mysteriously disappeared and PCR was given an EUA to use as a never validated "test") and already ventilated responded with a 90+%success rate in survival when given O2 at 2ATM for 90 min. a day over a 5 day period. EUA for HBOT was denied by the FDA IN 2020.

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Jim Beam's avatar

sounds like bullshit to me. This comment section is full of people that don't want to see the obvious truth.

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Robin Whittle's avatar

I could not find any evidence that the oxygen level of the atmosphere varies significantly from place to place, for any given altitude. Do you have any evidence that oxygen levels are significantly higher in coastal areas or over the ocean?

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Altitude data is well known.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1114067/

Ditto for coasts and there is some variability due to water temperatures and nutrient factors. An oceanographic institute like Scripps at La Jolla could provide updates on those findings.

What I ran across while researching a climate talk I gave in 2018 to a national convention breakout session was that we have also documented, and excuse me for not getting my source, but globally we have had a decline in atmospheric oxygen. It wasn't a lot but about 1% as I recall. It could have significance however in evolutionary biology.

I posed to some researchers like Dr. GeoffPainPhD that what impacts from that could predispose bacteria that are more anerobic to gain advantage in the human

respiratory system and hence worse bacterial pneumonia outcomes.

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Stephen Verchinski's avatar

Here's the O2 coastal data observed at sea level. I'd get the hard data to compare 02 at different locations.

https://scrippso2.ucsd.edu

By the way, successful treatment of hypoxic patients with HBOT was done in 1918 by a Dr. Cunningham..

Another side note on seashore O2. Cystic Fibrosis sufferers seem to get good relief living at sea level and by the ocean. Combined effects of increases in Vit. D and O2?

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Baldmichael's avatar

There was no novel virus, only the 'flu rebranded to COVID 19. Haiti may be poor and suffer other health issues but not the 'flu compared to other countries. Being in the tropics they benefit from the effects of the sun.

https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/what-is-the-flu-aka-covid-19-and

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Jim Beam's avatar

the answer is in the titl;e- they only had a 2.7% vaccination rate. The WHO covid dashboard is pretty straightforward- the more vaccinated, the higher the infection rate and the greater the mortality.

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Patty Pat's avatar

I think it’s a complicated set of factors. There is a seriously limited infrastructure in terms of healthcare in countries such as Haiti, New Guinea, and other parts of Africa. As a result, we cannot know the true burden of COVID in those regions. The population cohort is significantly younger in those regions, but also have a lot less of the comorbidities that make COVID so much worse.

A lot of these low income nations have trouble registering mortality even before the pandemic with some counties not even having an infrastructure to report mortality at all. There is also less distinction between most respiratory viruses at a first glance ignoring the post infection sequelae, and with regions with little access to electricity or internet, there is much greater difficulty in educating about these things.

However, I am open to criticism in my comments in this regard.

https://bmcpublichealth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12889-024-19262-7

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-of-deaths-registered

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Jim Beam's avatar

"I think it’s a complicated set of factor"

You're wrong. The jab is a bioweapon. See, that's was simple, wasn't it?

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Honor's avatar

Is it partly because they have hardly any ventilators?

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