This was outstanding a presentation lots of knowns and unknowns that many of us didn't Realise Dr McMillan what a outstanding panel looking forward to the next event Kind regards and speaking on behalf of everyone who was watching
We are indebted to the calm concise presentation of all the presenter's 🙏🙏
Thank you Dr McMillan. Excellent scientific discussion. You all are of some of the very best we have. You're Our True Truth Telling "HIPPOCRATIC OATH HEROS." I'm sending prayers of protection, discovery, and hope your way. Looking forward to tommorows discussion as well. Again thank you so very much for sharing with us. May we all endeavor to perservere.
Just the fact, that scientific research and discussion on Covid is still being censored/ignored 3 1/2 years later is so troubling. Why is a large percentage of the medical and scientific community not concerned with this data? Why are they still pushing this “vaccine” on children and healthy adults? I can understand doctors being duped by a false narrative, or false sense of trust in our institutions in the beginning of the pandemic. However, most doctors and healthcare professionals here in the US are still (blindly I hope) pushing the “vaccine” and refusing to recommend/prescribe any alternative treatments despite the plethora of promising data. It seems to be some type of mass formation psychosis, or an ego that refuses to be damaged. Is PRACTICING medicine a relic of the past that was swallowed up by the big pharma machine that tells them what to prescribe and what they can’t? I’d like to think this data would be on the radar of every practitioner around the world by now, no?
A honest response would be one in which you were willing to debate JJCouey.
We all think that you know full well what CLONES are and how they could have been used during the recent years. Your omission of going anywhere near this topic speaks volumes.
The alternate protocol is a modification of the FRNT that uses an infectious clone derived SARS-CoV-2 virus expressing a fluorescent reporter.
Couey's hypothesis requires positing the existence of a secretive kabbal of worldwide agents continuously releasing 'infectious clones' into target populations.
Absent evidence for such, it's a hypothesis pulled out of his ass.
Furthermore he's in flat-out denial of the evidence for viability of sars-cov-2, the body of collected samples showing conserved sequences. That all must be faked to support coey's hypothesis.
The requisite logical faculties and cognitive hygiene required to see this is admittedly rare.
OMG. You are RIGHT! It couldn't possibly be a controlled release at a few places within a short time in order to collect samples of a "consensus sequence". Who in the World could have the means to pull of something like that.
Impossible!
It MUST have come from a bat's ass in China. Or a lab leak. I am totally convinced thanks to your logic and sound reasoning!
Ivermectin, a cheap and proven drug, is still actively ignored and censored (albeit the FDA just recently admitted, that physician now may prescribe it). We are told that it is cheap. But in Germany a tablet of 3 mg costs around 15€!! In India you can buy 6 mg for 1€ (but you are not allowed to, as the custom office in Frankfurt airport will confiscate the consignment - and you will be charged 10000 up to 25000€). What the hack is going on?? Why is it the companies make that lot of money of a drug which is that cheap in „the rest of the world“??? The conference was excellent and I am looking forward to today‘s lectures and discussions!!!
I learned something because i watched Dr Philip McMillan stream , the GigaohmBiological stream i only watched to see how his interpretation of it is . And that was poor in my eyes , his interruptions distorted the original statements . cheers
Thanks for the slide deck of Dr. Christie Grace. Had a quick look. Need to go through them again in detail. As an organic chemist, I have been presenting simple scenarios of electrostatic interactions ( ion-ion interactions, charge-charge interactions). Reportedly, the spike protein active segments are cationic (positive charged) and receptor cell walls have negative (anionic) surface charges. This allows ready interaction between the two sites. The disease begins. Everyone now knows that anti histamines are front line medicines for covid. In their structures, they have electron rich (negative) nitrogen centres. They can instantly bind the cationic (positive) sites of spike proteins and deny them their wherewithal to lodge on receptor cell surfaces. The spike protein is thus decapacitated and thrown out by the body. Simple chemistry, but that is how involved biology works. I have communicated this model to several researchers to demonstrate this drug-spike interaction at the molecular level by say NMR or other methods. That will complete the science behind the successful use of anti histamines (and related structures) in covid. The scope is still open for this research. Perhaps I would request Dr. Christie Grace to look into this. In any case, I would keenly look for her comments.
I was hoping for some early response from Dr. Christie Grace, as I was giving an organic structure perspective to the play of ions and charges in biological settings. Even her perspectives on charges and ions can be drawn back to the locations of specific atoms in the macromolecule structures of proteins and enzymes. I am a bit disappointed. When people respond to podcasts like this on gatherings of experts, it would be very nice if the experts themselves respond/comment directly in these boxes to the technical points from readers and viewers. Dr. McMillan is the only one who responds and with some specific points where he can. It is they who will benefit from such interactions as they continue to remain active in the field as researchers and practitioners. I would request Dr. McMillan to make this possible.
Without any expertise in the field; I can say that Christie's description of the mutagenic properties of LNP are lacking a quantitative aspect. Understandable perhaps because the data are not available, but I think her view needs to be mediated by the following point:
The modRNA encapsulated within a LNP is subject to extended near-field exposure to the LNP. Any interactions which induce mutation are thus magnified by orders of magnitude compared to interactions between LNP in the body (freely floating around) and cellular RNA.
You have explained much more closely why the LNP encapsulating the m-RNA can become mutagenic. I am not sure what your professional background is, but I think the lipid shell of the natural virus without the spike proteins is more benign compared to this LNP. Almost two years, in my communication to Dr. McMillan, I had proposed another structural model for the virus that floats freely and gets inhaled and exhaled easily. I had suggested that it is a plain lipid shell, with no external features, but two RNA codes, one for the formation of the spikes and other external features and the second for its growth inside the cell. I can explain the spread, asymptomatic nature in some etc very well using this model. For all purposes, it becomes an allergen particle. What do you feel ?
Excellent presentations by one and all. As an organic chemist ( 78, PhD, industry R&D, retired), I am fascinated by Christie Grace’s concept of cationic and anionic charges at work in this disease in our bodies. I need to photograph her slides, get prints and go though them thoroughly. In June 2021, I first wrote to Dr. McMillan ( appreciated by him) on two delta cases around that time I had personally known, had proposed that this disease is an allergy and the virus actually an allergen, going by its ease of spread. I had also proposed that effective treatments by anti histamines could be explained, as simple chemistry, by the electrostatic interaction among the drug molecules, the receptor cell walls and the cationic nature of the active spike protein segments. In many many communications, I had pressed for early treatments, how it would prevent long covid presentations, how Omicron may not cause long covid etc. Though no one acknowledged them, let alone engage me in further discussions, I feel elated that many of these premises now have been endorsed by the experts here. I used to mention that I was constantly airing these views so that some researchers would get them to work out further. This conference vindicates my stances. Through this box, I would also reemphasise a few other points for the experts to take note. Many molecules ( e.g. anti histamines, Azithromycin, some non steroidal immune modulators etc) can be regraded by the structural class Cationic Amphiphilic Drugs ( CAD) that would work against this virus inside the cells by lysosomotropic mechanisms. Plucked from many many different indications, there are hundreds of this class that can additionally provide anti viral assistance. Second, they are not full throttle anti virals and need to be combined among themselves to get the total anti viral heft. In addition,all their lead roles( anti inflammatory, immune modulatory, anti clotting etc) would also come into play in combating this disease. Third, all these are useful functions in treating long covid also where flushing out the spike remnants ( virus or vaccine) is the prime requirement. Fourth, on many occasions, I had pitched for a role of ionic drugs, had prepared a list of 12-15 of them ( from different indications). Ceftaroline or Miltefosine, Cetyl Pyridinuim Chloride (CPC) for example. CPC is the popular mouth wash antiseptic, a Cationic molecule with a fatty (cetyl) tail, tailor made for this virus. Reportedly, this molecule could decapacitate this virus in seconds. Through this box, I want to make a fresh effort to reach out to experts, doctors and researchers among those following these podcasts that so much possibilities exist to research and explore for treatment options with common medicines. Please take them seriously. Solutions to many of our covid problems are just hiding from plain sight.
Thankyou Dr MacmIllian, one question: if you are breaking down spike protein with detox protocols are you increasing exposure to smaller prion like molecules?
This was outstanding a presentation lots of knowns and unknowns that many of us didn't Realise Dr McMillan what a outstanding panel looking forward to the next event Kind regards and speaking on behalf of everyone who was watching
We are indebted to the calm concise presentation of all the presenter's 🙏🙏
Such a wealth of information. Greatly appreciated!
Excellent presenatation. Looking forward to the next one as well.
Thank you Dr McMillan. Excellent scientific discussion. You all are of some of the very best we have. You're Our True Truth Telling "HIPPOCRATIC OATH HEROS." I'm sending prayers of protection, discovery, and hope your way. Looking forward to tommorows discussion as well. Again thank you so very much for sharing with us. May we all endeavor to perservere.
Just the fact, that scientific research and discussion on Covid is still being censored/ignored 3 1/2 years later is so troubling. Why is a large percentage of the medical and scientific community not concerned with this data? Why are they still pushing this “vaccine” on children and healthy adults? I can understand doctors being duped by a false narrative, or false sense of trust in our institutions in the beginning of the pandemic. However, most doctors and healthcare professionals here in the US are still (blindly I hope) pushing the “vaccine” and refusing to recommend/prescribe any alternative treatments despite the plethora of promising data. It seems to be some type of mass formation psychosis, or an ego that refuses to be damaged. Is PRACTICING medicine a relic of the past that was swallowed up by the big pharma machine that tells them what to prescribe and what they can’t? I’d like to think this data would be on the radar of every practitioner around the world by now, no?
JJCoueys take on McMillans presentation
https://www.twitch.tv/gigaohmbiological/v/1909107217?sr=a&t=1903s
Wow!
I have finally got a Troll!
In some sense, this is good news.
A honest response would be one in which you were willing to debate JJCouey.
We all think that you know full well what CLONES are and how they could have been used during the recent years. Your omission of going anywhere near this topic speaks volumes.
The alternate protocol is a modification of the FRNT that uses an infectious clone derived SARS-CoV-2 virus expressing a fluorescent reporter.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7864545/
Couey's hypothesis requires positing the existence of a secretive kabbal of worldwide agents continuously releasing 'infectious clones' into target populations.
Absent evidence for such, it's a hypothesis pulled out of his ass.
Furthermore he's in flat-out denial of the evidence for viability of sars-cov-2, the body of collected samples showing conserved sequences. That all must be faked to support coey's hypothesis.
The requisite logical faculties and cognitive hygiene required to see this is admittedly rare.
A sucker born every minute.
OMG. You are RIGHT! It couldn't possibly be a controlled release at a few places within a short time in order to collect samples of a "consensus sequence". Who in the World could have the means to pull of something like that.
Impossible!
It MUST have come from a bat's ass in China. Or a lab leak. I am totally convinced thanks to your logic and sound reasoning!
"Kevin W McCarin"
McCairn
Ivermectin, a cheap and proven drug, is still actively ignored and censored (albeit the FDA just recently admitted, that physician now may prescribe it). We are told that it is cheap. But in Germany a tablet of 3 mg costs around 15€!! In India you can buy 6 mg for 1€ (but you are not allowed to, as the custom office in Frankfurt airport will confiscate the consignment - and you will be charged 10000 up to 25000€). What the hack is going on?? Why is it the companies make that lot of money of a drug which is that cheap in „the rest of the world“??? The conference was excellent and I am looking forward to today‘s lectures and discussions!!!
Thank you.
@Vejon Health / Phillip McMillan , at first thank you for providing this forum and the high caliber guests in it .
I think you should look into GigaohmBiological partial re-stream of this . It is rather defamatory .
Part 1 - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1909107217
Part 2 - https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1909173735
Was the stream taken down by You Tube ?
Or is it a precaution to prevent a strike since it is available on your substack .
Regards
Precaution.
Defamatory? JJCouey was showing you the omissions in McMillans presentation. Be happy you learned something new
I learned something because i watched Dr Philip McMillan stream , the GigaohmBiological stream i only watched to see how his interpretation of it is . And that was poor in my eyes , his interruptions distorted the original statements . cheers
Spectral restoration of Charles Rixey's audio, along with slides in fullscreen from his presentation.
https://rumble.com/v3hzp6m-cmdr.-charles-rixey-2023-09-sars-cov-2-and-pasclong-covid-gof.html
Unfortunately Charles was likely recording the audio from his headphones, so 6khz is down -78dB, with only noise remaining.
The gate (auto-mute) also cut out some of his text.
I have prepared a restored version with audio transcript to be hosted at Dr. Mccairn's site https://wtyl.live
The subtitles to Rixey's presentation may be downloaded here: https://0x0.st/HOXV.srt
Not even the original stream features readable pdf slides, so I have recreated the video with upscaled .png from his original pdf.
Thanks for the slide deck of Dr. Christie Grace. Had a quick look. Need to go through them again in detail. As an organic chemist, I have been presenting simple scenarios of electrostatic interactions ( ion-ion interactions, charge-charge interactions). Reportedly, the spike protein active segments are cationic (positive charged) and receptor cell walls have negative (anionic) surface charges. This allows ready interaction between the two sites. The disease begins. Everyone now knows that anti histamines are front line medicines for covid. In their structures, they have electron rich (negative) nitrogen centres. They can instantly bind the cationic (positive) sites of spike proteins and deny them their wherewithal to lodge on receptor cell surfaces. The spike protein is thus decapacitated and thrown out by the body. Simple chemistry, but that is how involved biology works. I have communicated this model to several researchers to demonstrate this drug-spike interaction at the molecular level by say NMR or other methods. That will complete the science behind the successful use of anti histamines (and related structures) in covid. The scope is still open for this research. Perhaps I would request Dr. Christie Grace to look into this. In any case, I would keenly look for her comments.
I was hoping for some early response from Dr. Christie Grace, as I was giving an organic structure perspective to the play of ions and charges in biological settings. Even her perspectives on charges and ions can be drawn back to the locations of specific atoms in the macromolecule structures of proteins and enzymes. I am a bit disappointed. When people respond to podcasts like this on gatherings of experts, it would be very nice if the experts themselves respond/comment directly in these boxes to the technical points from readers and viewers. Dr. McMillan is the only one who responds and with some specific points where he can. It is they who will benefit from such interactions as they continue to remain active in the field as researchers and practitioners. I would request Dr. McMillan to make this possible.
Without any expertise in the field; I can say that Christie's description of the mutagenic properties of LNP are lacking a quantitative aspect. Understandable perhaps because the data are not available, but I think her view needs to be mediated by the following point:
The modRNA encapsulated within a LNP is subject to extended near-field exposure to the LNP. Any interactions which induce mutation are thus magnified by orders of magnitude compared to interactions between LNP in the body (freely floating around) and cellular RNA.
You have explained much more closely why the LNP encapsulating the m-RNA can become mutagenic. I am not sure what your professional background is, but I think the lipid shell of the natural virus without the spike proteins is more benign compared to this LNP. Almost two years, in my communication to Dr. McMillan, I had proposed another structural model for the virus that floats freely and gets inhaled and exhaled easily. I had suggested that it is a plain lipid shell, with no external features, but two RNA codes, one for the formation of the spikes and other external features and the second for its growth inside the cell. I can explain the spread, asymptomatic nature in some etc very well using this model. For all purposes, it becomes an allergen particle. What do you feel ?
Excellent presentations by one and all. As an organic chemist ( 78, PhD, industry R&D, retired), I am fascinated by Christie Grace’s concept of cationic and anionic charges at work in this disease in our bodies. I need to photograph her slides, get prints and go though them thoroughly. In June 2021, I first wrote to Dr. McMillan ( appreciated by him) on two delta cases around that time I had personally known, had proposed that this disease is an allergy and the virus actually an allergen, going by its ease of spread. I had also proposed that effective treatments by anti histamines could be explained, as simple chemistry, by the electrostatic interaction among the drug molecules, the receptor cell walls and the cationic nature of the active spike protein segments. In many many communications, I had pressed for early treatments, how it would prevent long covid presentations, how Omicron may not cause long covid etc. Though no one acknowledged them, let alone engage me in further discussions, I feel elated that many of these premises now have been endorsed by the experts here. I used to mention that I was constantly airing these views so that some researchers would get them to work out further. This conference vindicates my stances. Through this box, I would also reemphasise a few other points for the experts to take note. Many molecules ( e.g. anti histamines, Azithromycin, some non steroidal immune modulators etc) can be regraded by the structural class Cationic Amphiphilic Drugs ( CAD) that would work against this virus inside the cells by lysosomotropic mechanisms. Plucked from many many different indications, there are hundreds of this class that can additionally provide anti viral assistance. Second, they are not full throttle anti virals and need to be combined among themselves to get the total anti viral heft. In addition,all their lead roles( anti inflammatory, immune modulatory, anti clotting etc) would also come into play in combating this disease. Third, all these are useful functions in treating long covid also where flushing out the spike remnants ( virus or vaccine) is the prime requirement. Fourth, on many occasions, I had pitched for a role of ionic drugs, had prepared a list of 12-15 of them ( from different indications). Ceftaroline or Miltefosine, Cetyl Pyridinuim Chloride (CPC) for example. CPC is the popular mouth wash antiseptic, a Cationic molecule with a fatty (cetyl) tail, tailor made for this virus. Reportedly, this molecule could decapacitate this virus in seconds. Through this box, I want to make a fresh effort to reach out to experts, doctors and researchers among those following these podcasts that so much possibilities exist to research and explore for treatment options with common medicines. Please take them seriously. Solutions to many of our covid problems are just hiding from plain sight.
you may convert christie's .pdf to pictures with the following command:
mkdir -p outslides; pdftoppm -png -r 150 Grace_Christie_LNP_Adverse_Events_2023_08_26_6620.pdf outslides/christie_grace_presentation_
..Or find someone versed in computers to do it for you
Will the slides be made available for download?
Here you go
https://www.docdroid.net/8T8H6Tc/lnp-adverse-events-by-christie-grace-08august2023-1-pdf
https://www.proteinatlas.org/ENSG00000145335-SNCA/tissue
Thanks!
Have a look on Rixey’s page he posted the LNP slides.
CHARLES RIXEY
https://twitter.com/CharlesRixey
Thanks!
Thankyou Dr MacmIllian, one question: if you are breaking down spike protein with detox protocols are you increasing exposure to smaller prion like molecules?
Looking at the awful jpeg artefacts in these slides please PLEASE, people.
If you know you're doing important work, save it as .png. JPEG (.jpg) is a lossy format and WILL DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF YOUR WORK.
Just checking re authentication. Lost typed posting half a dozen times in the last 24 hrs.