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Susan Smith's avatar

Dr Chetty is a brilliant clinician. He understood the elements and treatment of covid infection in May 2020, when most drs were just telling people to go home, no treatment at all.

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James Kringlee's avatar

I added Bismuth subsalicylate to my covid kit "on spec" early on because because the "gut active" bismuth compound that I first read was effective against covid, "Ranitidine bismuth citrate, a common drug for heartburn and other disorders, has been withdrawn from the market due to its contamination with N-nitrosodimethylamine (NDMA), a probable human carcinogen."

I subsequently found research showing "Bismuth subsalicylate, sold generically as pink bismuth and under brand names including Pepto-Bismol, Pepti-Calm and BisBacter,"

was also active against sars-cov-2 and covid.

such as this (among numbers of publications) "Bismuth subsalicylate as potential treatment for Covid-19 pneumonia: A case series report" https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fddsv.2022.962988/full

"Various literature cited suggests that bismuth may have usefulness against Covid-19 both in vitro and in vivo. During the course of caring for Covid-19 patients we administered bismuth subsalicylate to those who displayed diarrhea and/or gastric complaints. Using relatively conservative criteria, upon retrospective review, we noted marked improvement in oxygen requirements in most of the cases. This improvement was observed even when prior therapy with standard anti-Covid drugs had failed. Our overall impression is that these positive results support a detailed evaluation of bismuth as an adjunct treatment for the treatment of Covid-19."

I searched using duck duck go with these words below

Bismuth subsalicylate and sars-cov-2 / covid

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Interesting James.

Anything that impacts on bacterial toxin production should be of value.

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James Kringlee's avatar

I stocked Bismuth subsalicylate for its potential inhibition of viral replication in the gut, so now also potentially knocking down viral replication in gut bacteria. I read it also has actions against bacteria and inflammation and perhaps some anticoagulation activity listed here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismuth_subsalicylate

Perhaps the usefulness of antibiotics with antiviral action in the treatment of covid extends to the killing of gut bacteria that would otherwise become infected with sars-cov-2. Useful after infection in a process of knocking down infected bacteria then restoring good, uninfected bacteria to the gut?

I remember when Dr Chetty referenced a shift to more sars-cov-2 gut activity in the second wave of covid and his response with H2 blockers. I thought - natural evolution? or assisted evolution?

Dr Mobeen Syed discusses several Ranitidine bismuth citrate studys which illuminate the "viral helicase inhibitor virostatic / antiviral" action of bismuth salts in greatly reducing viral replication of both sars-cov and sars-cov-2 starting introduction to the 1:40 point then discussion of studies at the 6:02 time point in "Ranitidine Bismuth Citrate (RBC) For COVID-19" found here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=id3ysIch4lk he has provided links to 4 studies and 1 wickedpedia article below his video.

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Moro Balakrishnan's avatar

Let me add Montelukast sodium also to my list of ionics. Along with Azithromycin, Ivermectin, HCQ, Levocetrizine, this was a leading drug in this pandemic. It is also a carboxylate ion, much like soap.

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Moro Balakrishnan's avatar

I had read about RBC trials in Covid in early 2021 itself. Your ( Dr. Kringlee) on bismuth subsalicylate is very interesting. One mechanism of work of these bimuth compounds is that they are salts, ionic organic. Much like soap (sodium oleate) the first and early killer of this virus or CPC(Cetyl Pyridinium chloride) the mouth wash ingredient, another instant virus killer. Or Miltefosine, an anti parasitic and another ionic drugs. As an organic chemist, I can explain how with their electrostatic interactions, these ionic organics, as a class can be powerful antivirals. I had mentioned about these to Dr. McMillan way back in July 2021, when I began following his videos and communicating with him. Very very recently, I had mentioned this to Dr. Shankara Chetty also. Quite a few cephalosporin anti biotics are also cationic and can be powerful anti virals. It is a new way of looking at some the repurposed drugs.

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James Kringlee's avatar

I am not a doctor but one of many forced to become their own "doctor" because of the denial of Real Prevention for covid and the denial of Real Treatment for covid in these evil times.

I worked as an independent contractor in the painting and building trades and throughout my life have had an interest in and ability to "research" and figure out how to do practical things.. These served me well at the start of the pandemic as I owned a full kit of 3M respiratory protection and had a substantial stock of 3M 8210+ N95 masks which enabled me to give Real N95 masks to family friends and neighbors and protect myself and to be able to take the time to "research" and find out what Real Doctors and Real Researchers had figured out about sars-cov-2 and covid.

Yes to "repurposed drugs".

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Moro Balakrishnan's avatar

Very interesting background yours. You may have started out of necessity, but I think you have maintained tremendous interest in the subject, for any clinician to take serious note of your word. I have mentioned in several other places about about the sorry plight of Covid patients in the USA, not being able to find or get the help of doctors that have closely followed this virus and illness. I find this situation very intriguing if not shameful. It was USA that developed and gave 80% of all the drugs that have saved humanity down these decades. Yet, it didn’t realise or ignored the fact that it was perfectly capable of subduing this pandemic quickly, saving over a million lives. What a travesty of fate !

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James Kringlee's avatar

Thank You.

"I find this situation very intriguing if not shameful"

Yes, very intriguing - shameful.

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La Grenouille's avatar

As a non-medical person interested in this crisis I am so grateful to see two professionals freely discussing their ideas and point of views. But why do our governments do not behave like this, in other words by being honest, humble and accepting that the 'others' could be right? I'm still shocked about the possibility of Dr Shankara Chetty loosing his license for... having saved many patients whilst the establishment had and still has no answer on how to save those ill enough to require hospitalisation. Sadly the French government and so has the Australian government removed the licenses of medical doctors who were not backing the narrative/s whilst these very same doctors were saving lives! Hoping that there is still some good in those people who will examine Dr Chetty's case and let the truth decide. Praying for your Dr Chetty.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Thank you for the input.

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DeepBlue's avatar

"But why do our governments do not behave like this?"

It is very simple they are owned by corporate interests; he who pays the piper calls the tune.

We don't live in a democracy, we live in a corpocracy.

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Sieglinde W. Alexander's avatar

Dr. Chetty's approach served as a wake-up call for me, prompting action during a period when many doctors remained unaware of COVID-19's impact.

Their limited understanding of viruses and bacteria often led to incorrect treatments.

It's important to note that, although scientific knowledge was present, very few understood the interaction between viral inflammation, T-cell responses and microbiome. The cytokines' overreaction necessitated quick adaptation to effectively integrate existing medical treatments.

The question arose about what posed a greater risk: COVID-19 itself or the inadequate treatments. Both the virus and the mishandling of its treatment presented significant risks to patients.

In the beginning, timely and appropriate medical intervention would have been crucial in managing the acute phase of COVID-19, which could have theoretically reduced the risk of developing Long COVID.

It's important to note that while scientific knowledge was available, there was a lack of swift adaptation to effectively integrate existing medical treatments.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Excellent.

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Alison Scott's avatar

What a fabulous and interesting discussion. I remember watching a video from Dr Chetty on Rumble a few years ago and thinking that not only was he very intelligent but that he was so aware of what was going on with this whole scam and was not afraid to speak out. You are both true heroes.

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Scott McRae's avatar

In my opinion, Chlorine Dioxide will take care of ALL of the problems discussed in this video, and the best CLO2 Solutions would be activated or unactivated MMS drops or Scott's Antidote or CDH4000, in that order, but not CDS in this case because it doesn't have any sodium chlorite in it. The reason why I think this is because I believe it's important for some sodium chlorite to get past the stomach and into the small intestine, just like with what happens when it's used to cure malaria, even though it causes some nausea. In this way, the sodium chlorite and some chlorine dioxide will be able to do its work there in the small intestines and also in the liver where it will be carried to. This is similar to when these CLO2 Solutions are used to cure malaria, which is a microscopic parasite which has a stage of development in the liver, and the sodium chlorite and chlorine dioxide kill them (the parasites) there in the liver via the small intestines. As for the colon, Chlorine Dioxide Solutions can also be administered as an enema there too.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Thank you Scott.

It is still on our agenda to have a detailed conversation with you and other colleagues.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

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Mark Gresham's avatar

"Dr. Montagnier drew growing criticism as he threw his weight behind unlikely theories, surprising some colleagues when he asserted that HIV causes AIDS only by combining with bacteria called mycoplasma."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-dead/2022/02/10/e317c046-b6d5-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html

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James Kringlee's avatar

Very cryptically the, unexplained, letters "HIV" were on the bottom left corner of the spreadsheet originally included in, then deleted from, the supplementary data of the March 22, 2020 "US" bioweapon/bioweapon countermeasure complex's "hide in plain sight" limited hangout, zoonotic origin / wet market infection epicenter, mis/dis/mal information, propaganda piece "Emergence of SARS-CoV-2 through recombination and strong purifying selection" They carefully tell some truth, always make mention of zoonotic evolution while never actually saying sars-cov-2 was zoonotic (plausible deniability) and never mention lab origin. (just look at where the authors work). This actually spelled out the lab creation of sars-cov-2 less the numbers of bioweapon "inserts" added to the "spike" of sars-cov-2.

note; As this "Research Article" was originally posted to the preprint? server, the supplementary data initially contained a spreadsheet, subsequently removed, showing on the vertical, line by line, 3533 individual tissue samples taken from a number of sick pangolins. Virus types found in each tissue sample, averaging close to 10 per sample, were listed horizontally - sars-cov-1 was found in sick pangolin #7 and more in sick pangolin #8, more likely the "guilty party" supplying the human ACE 2 binding affinity enhancement identified in the spike of sars-cov-2. I suspect this spreadsheet was removed because someone recognized that it was a "fine exemplar" of chinese bioweapon gain of function research.

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Bandit's avatar

Thank-you for that download. I've not read the whole thing yet, but it is very interesting.

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Ela's avatar

I had my first covid positive PCR test in November 2023. It really hit me hard and the tests remained positive for 9 days. A week after supposed recovery, I became fatigued losing circa 2hrs every afternoon. The most shocking and medically unexplained observation is the clay coloured appearance of my stool. None of the standard tests and scans have shown any abnormalities. The abnormal colouring is ongoing, but thankfully not every occasion.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Good case to use humming to increase nitric oxide levels in the upper airway.

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Bob L's avatar

This is a small thing, but I didn't think the German butterfly bombs was the best analogy for the toxins from infected bacteria. I looked-up the butteryfly bomb, and it was just an early cluster bomb.

I can't think of a better analogy, but I don't think that one was a good fit. The AIDS comparison was interesting though. I did not understand how AIDS worked.

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Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Good point.

Struggling to find a good analogy.

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YvetteC's avatar

Thank u for always sharing value information with us 🙏🏻

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Scott McRae's avatar

A chlorine dioxide enema should take care of the problem in the colon, whether the concern be viral or bacterial.

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Mark Luersen's avatar

What are your thoughts on ozone rectal insufflation instead?

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Scott McRae's avatar

I believe ozone should work as well. The 👍

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grain of sand's avatar

Does anyone see a link for further discussion? It is it just for monthly subscribers?

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Seven Chakras's avatar

Good question?

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Eliz's avatar

Dr. Chetty is so wonderful. Philip is too, for finding him early on, & being brave enough to have him on the program.

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Robert Lofthouse's avatar

First, thank you so much for your work Dr McMillan. I know it's not easy but it's so important that people find out what's going on.

I have no expertise to speak about this but I heard early on that there was snake DNA in COVID. I've also understand that snake venom causes blood clotting. Is there a possible connection? What types of toxins are the infected bacteria producing?

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James Kringlee's avatar

below is some of what Dr Kory has to say on the subject here https://pierrekory.substack.com/p/snake-venom-and-covid-19

" ... there is indeed a short sequence of RNA coding for amino acids that make up a part of the receptor binding domain (RBD) portion of the spike protein that is identical to snake venom. Problem with calling COVID-19 snake venom: this ptotein sequence is just a small part of one protein of the 29 made by SARS-CoV2 when it replicates. This does NOT mean the virus came from a snake but it does have a little snake venom protein in it. Why it is in there who knows, I suppose I can ask Fauci or Baric or Daszak or the Chinese Military the next time I run into one of them. Starting from here though, I am getting worried about where this is going.

It is true however, and important to recognize, that this part of the spike protein RBD may potentially make it antagonize nicotinic receptors, a pathophysiologic mechanism which is one of many exhibited by snake venom. This mechanism does indeed cause macrophage activation and cytokine storms via the antagonism of nicotinic receptors. Although we all know that the ACE-2 receptor is how the virus enters and replicates, it is possible that the nicotinic acid receptor antagonism could indeed play a role in making people so ill. So, it has some snake venom like properties and suggests nicotine and other nicotinic acid agonists may have a therapeutic role. May have one. But that is as far as the science will get you. Problem is that the spike also has sequences which encode proteins identical to staphylococcus toxin ... "

my note: bioweapon bacterial superantigen Staphylococcal enterotoxin B (SEB) - - an old school bioweapon in the bioweapon stockpiles in the world, undoubtedly in china. Once a US mainstay and now?, undoubtedly still the US stockpile for research purposes, etc.,

see this study https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33930306/ (one among numbers of "bioweapon insert" in the spike studies)

Abstract

We recently discovered a superantigen-like motif sequentially and structurally similar to a staphylococcal enterotoxin B (SEB) segment, near the S1/S2 cleavage site of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which might explain the multisystem inflammatory syndrome (MIS-C) observed in children and the cytokine storm in severe COVID-19 patients. We show here that an anti-SEB monoclonal antibody (mAb), 6D3, can bind this viral motif at its polybasic (PRRA) insert to inhibit infection in live virus assays. The overlap between the superantigenic site of the spike and its proteolytic cleavage site suggests that the mAb prevents viral entry by interfering with the proteolytic activity of cell proteases (furin and TMPRSS2). The high affinity of 6D3 for this site originates from a polyacidic segment at its heavy chain CDR2. The study points to the potential utility of 6D3 for possibly treating COVID-19, MIS-C, or common colds caused by human coronaviruses that also possess a furin-like cleavage site."

ps. In my "covid kit" I stock a pack of Equate brand Nicotine Gum I bought at Walmart (4 mg - 20 Pieces) easy to cut or bite in half and chew 1/2 a tablet for a 2 mg dose if that dose is chosen.

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Ann's avatar

Some people have had skin rashes as a result of even one vaccine. Is their any advice on how to treat these rashes?

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