Such a great chat. You're 3 of my favorite people to listen to. What is your opinion of all the other mRNA products in development..flu, etc? Was covid just the wrong virus to roll this out or will there be the same risks of autoimmune problems?
Great Update by Geert, Shankara.& Philip. I suspect hat a lot of vaccine vials were not really functional (defect formulation) due to 24/7 operation/stress/human errors in formulating/filling plans. Then there was for sure some cooling issues during transport & storagr. so.the number of unvaxxed might be a little higher. And yes. Bulgaria, Rumänia & Bulgaria are countries which could become further interesting.
i was curious why Geert didnt mention any of the Afruican countries, which were mentioned during the talk, as possible refuges. Bulgaria isnt great for non-slavic speakers (which i know because a relative went there as a tourist), and politically it is subservient to USA and therefore probably has bioweapon labs like the ones in Ukraine that were experimenting on local people.
Correct that it isn´t great for non-slavic speakers. I have travelled throughout BG a lot in the 90s and gotten to know the people and culture quite well. BG i consider a lot different to Ukraine (UA). Fair to say I never have been in the UA but know quite some people who spend considerable life & working time there - people I trust on their judgement. The level of corruption today in the entire EU is about the same - well in BG you might be still able to bribe a cop but in Germany not but then the corruption at higher levels in Germany, Austria e.g. I consider as multiple as in BG ! The level of corruption in the upper political level has multiplied and since the justice system is more and more in the hands of the government - corruption has almost become "official" . . . . . because almost all get away with it through "legal tricks". Ukraine tops all corruption levels I was told. And I always wonder how can the EU even consider such a candidate to enter their Union? Well - as we know all is geopolitical and it does not matter what happens in this country as long as it serves against Russia. In UA literally anything goes which is fortunately not (yet) the case in Germany nor is it in Bulgaria. There is a reason why Bulgarians have such a low vaccination rate, actually THE LOWEST! - it is the people. Even though they are poor compared to EU standardas I consider them as smart (smarter than the top 5 or 6 in the EU !!) and kind of having their own mind. Biolabs ? I do not think so - would be too risky for politicians to set up something like this and then get ousted by the people. You can do a lot with money but "biolabing on people" ?? In Ukraine there seems a different regime and brutality and people have nothing to say - no so in Bulgaria. While I agree with your comment also with being servant to the US (who is that not :-)) I do not think so in terms of Biolabs . . . .
But maybe I am wrong who knows - the world is f....corrupt and mankind the enemy of god. The older I become, the more I know . . . . I was more happy as a fool then. All This is not far from medevial age but with smartphones, pseudo AI, full fridges and e-cars etc. but humans have not changed at all since Mayan, Egyptian, Greek, Romans......good weekend.
Sorry for my many typing errors: Bulgaria is in the high 20s in percentage of vaccinations, Serbia in the higher 40s as is Romania. In regard to the really functionals mRNA vials there have been studies on lot related severe side-effects and analyis has been done on lot to lot formulation and if I can remember right it was found that the micell-like protective nano-lipid layers "around" mRNA was quite often not functional i.e. once in the human body it cannot get into the cell and will be simply eliminated. Coming from the medicinal product side I can only conlcude for myself that just the toppic of creating the right formulation in order to be absorbed into the cell is subject of studies of 5 - 8 years. I believe this was never done and maybe they decided to initially overload the vials with active incredients to make sure it does what it is supposed to do and then they decreased it slowly doing a lot of life-studies during the vaccionation phase world wide. (Of course top secret). I believe that many just have been lucky and got a "bad" lot i.e. it was not "functional". I hope they continue research on side-effects in a lot-based manner . . . . as some private organizations started to do and came out with shocking results. Due to time reasons I refrain from putting sources here - sorry.
All these 'Hex-Spurts' are very pooooor communicators - umming and ahhing --- in a totally non-succinct ... just so we can waste our time trying to parse what they are saying over the tedious pointless adumbration .
i always find Dr.Chetty extremely clear and down to earth in his answers, perhaps because he does this with his patients. Dr.Bossche is harder to understand both because of his non-native english but also being a scientist deeply immersed in the weeds so he cannot help wanting to be precise and using lots of jargon.
I was hoping they would talk about the rash of influenza and cancer and shingle and RSV.
Also, Geert's solution of using antivirals en masse to eradicate the more virulent virus would have to be extended to the many wild and domestic animals that are now known carriers of human coronaviruses and influenzas or there could be mass exterminations as we have already seen with chickens and minks and cows.
Such a great chat. You're 3 of my favorite people to listen to. What is your opinion of all the other mRNA products in development..flu, etc? Was covid just the wrong virus to roll this out or will there be the same risks of autoimmune problems?
What does Geert imply by saying the vaccinated folks will need to "disappear" if the virus is to be totally eradicated?
they need to stop hosting the virus, which means they would have to take prophylactic antivirals and supplements
Thank you Krishna. Fortunately I'm already doing that, hopefully others are as well.
Great Update by Geert, Shankara.& Philip. I suspect hat a lot of vaccine vials were not really functional (defect formulation) due to 24/7 operation/stress/human errors in formulating/filling plans. Then there was for sure some cooling issues during transport & storagr. so.the number of unvaxxed might be a little higher. And yes. Bulgaria, Rumänia & Bulgaria are countries which could become further interesting.
i was curious why Geert didnt mention any of the Afruican countries, which were mentioned during the talk, as possible refuges. Bulgaria isnt great for non-slavic speakers (which i know because a relative went there as a tourist), and politically it is subservient to USA and therefore probably has bioweapon labs like the ones in Ukraine that were experimenting on local people.
Correct that it isn´t great for non-slavic speakers. I have travelled throughout BG a lot in the 90s and gotten to know the people and culture quite well. BG i consider a lot different to Ukraine (UA). Fair to say I never have been in the UA but know quite some people who spend considerable life & working time there - people I trust on their judgement. The level of corruption today in the entire EU is about the same - well in BG you might be still able to bribe a cop but in Germany not but then the corruption at higher levels in Germany, Austria e.g. I consider as multiple as in BG ! The level of corruption in the upper political level has multiplied and since the justice system is more and more in the hands of the government - corruption has almost become "official" . . . . . because almost all get away with it through "legal tricks". Ukraine tops all corruption levels I was told. And I always wonder how can the EU even consider such a candidate to enter their Union? Well - as we know all is geopolitical and it does not matter what happens in this country as long as it serves against Russia. In UA literally anything goes which is fortunately not (yet) the case in Germany nor is it in Bulgaria. There is a reason why Bulgarians have such a low vaccination rate, actually THE LOWEST! - it is the people. Even though they are poor compared to EU standardas I consider them as smart (smarter than the top 5 or 6 in the EU !!) and kind of having their own mind. Biolabs ? I do not think so - would be too risky for politicians to set up something like this and then get ousted by the people. You can do a lot with money but "biolabing on people" ?? In Ukraine there seems a different regime and brutality and people have nothing to say - no so in Bulgaria. While I agree with your comment also with being servant to the US (who is that not :-)) I do not think so in terms of Biolabs . . . .
glad to hear it!
But maybe I am wrong who knows - the world is f....corrupt and mankind the enemy of god. The older I become, the more I know . . . . I was more happy as a fool then. All This is not far from medevial age but with smartphones, pseudo AI, full fridges and e-cars etc. but humans have not changed at all since Mayan, Egyptian, Greek, Romans......good weekend.
Sorry for my many typing errors: Bulgaria is in the high 20s in percentage of vaccinations, Serbia in the higher 40s as is Romania. In regard to the really functionals mRNA vials there have been studies on lot related severe side-effects and analyis has been done on lot to lot formulation and if I can remember right it was found that the micell-like protective nano-lipid layers "around" mRNA was quite often not functional i.e. once in the human body it cannot get into the cell and will be simply eliminated. Coming from the medicinal product side I can only conlcude for myself that just the toppic of creating the right formulation in order to be absorbed into the cell is subject of studies of 5 - 8 years. I believe this was never done and maybe they decided to initially overload the vials with active incredients to make sure it does what it is supposed to do and then they decreased it slowly doing a lot of life-studies during the vaccionation phase world wide. (Of course top secret). I believe that many just have been lucky and got a "bad" lot i.e. it was not "functional". I hope they continue research on side-effects in a lot-based manner . . . . as some private organizations started to do and came out with shocking results. Due to time reasons I refrain from putting sources here - sorry.
All these 'Hex-Spurts' are very pooooor communicators - umming and ahhing --- in a totally non-succinct ... just so we can waste our time trying to parse what they are saying over the tedious pointless adumbration .
i always find Dr.Chetty extremely clear and down to earth in his answers, perhaps because he does this with his patients. Dr.Bossche is harder to understand both because of his non-native english but also being a scientist deeply immersed in the weeds so he cannot help wanting to be precise and using lots of jargon.
I was hoping they would talk about the rash of influenza and cancer and shingle and RSV.
Also, Geert's solution of using antivirals en masse to eradicate the more virulent virus would have to be extended to the many wild and domestic animals that are now known carriers of human coronaviruses and influenzas or there could be mass exterminations as we have already seen with chickens and minks and cows.