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Cruising Economist's avatar

The implication is that people with healthy immune systems, undamaged by COVID injections or anything else, may now become seriously ill when exposed to a virus which isn't novel. Why would healthy human immune systems suddenly fail after functioning well, in fact wondrously, in the face of a vast array of endemic viruses through human history?

Note, the great majority have probably recovered from COVID hence their immune systems are prepared to deal with that virus, including the spike protein. Again, just wondering about people who didn't get any COVID injections. There are a great many such people in the world hence it should be simple enough to determine if they are in fact suffering from fundamental immune system problems.

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Fast Eddy's avatar

They have embedded a ticking extinction bomb into the cells of 6+B humans...

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Jeanine's avatar

I would imagine because this virus was made in a lab. Everytime the unvaccinated contract COVID there is damage that occurs which weakens the immune system. Are we as bad off as the vaccinated? No, however, your best bet is avoid contracting COVID.

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Cruising Economist's avatar

I've heard that stated before but seen nothing beyond speculation as to why it would be true. Maybe it is, I don't know, but given how resilient a healthy human immune system is I certainly wouldn't jump to any conclusions until there is some real world evidence. I haven't heard of, or seen, any at this point...happily. I have seen, tragically, in my own family that some who were injected and "boosted" have experienced unusual difficulty recovering from routine viruses; four instances in my family alone during the last year or so!

I for one am not going to worry about exposure to new variants. In fact, as with all rapidly mutating viruses, it is important to be exposed to them so our immune systems continually adapt.

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Jeanine's avatar

Your immune system doesn't continually adapt. It's not a natural virus. It's a man made lab virus. The spike damages the heart, and lungs, your vascular system, and passes through the BBB causing neurological damage. When you keep infecting yourself with COVID the damage compounds and you end up with long covid. Once you are damaged to that extent you are not completely clearing the virus. VAIDS is your next step. After VAIDS is sepsis. It's your death by 1000 cuts but you don't have to believe Dr. McMillan you can do what you want.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

Your immune system does continuously adapt, Professor Steven Pelech showed in his work that his subjects in his study held their immunity for over 3 years and were fine and just got boostered with exposure. Dr Philip Mc Millan should do a video with him so he can explain his research etc.

They make viruses all the time see Jon Fleetwood SUBSTACK.

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Cruising Economist's avatar

Though decades ago I seem to recall immune system adaptation is a concept which was introduced during my high school biology course.

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Sounds Like Nonsense's avatar

Yes it’s natural. And like Dr Steven Pelech says people are still immune to SARS 1 and the Spanish flu etc so he says natural immunity to this is the same.

He says decades to life just like other viruses..

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Jeanine's avatar

Well my body remembers the flu well enough that without any flu vaccines I haven't contracted the flu since 1995. However, without any COVID vaccines I got covid twice in three years.

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Cruising Economist's avatar

I certainly hope that won't prove to be true but what's the alternative in any case. Respiratory viruses are going to spread and living in isolation is not an option. At this point, given that there is no reason not to, I would bet those who weren't injected are generally going to be just fine. And I hope those who were can recover from whatever immune system damage they may have suffered. Time will tell.

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Jeanine's avatar

It keeps mutating. Well all viruses mutate. Yes, but this one is working to evade the last few immune defenses the vaccinated have. Once that happens: No immune defense = VAIDS = Death

Dr. McMillan can correct me on whatever I say that's incorrect. But that's how it's playing out and this isn't a new concept. It's known since 2020.

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Cruising Economist's avatar

Note, from the start I've been making a clear distinction between those who've received COVID injections and those who haven't. Based on no end of evidence at this point, some witnessed first hand, I'm very concerned about the well-being of those who were injected, and not just as it relates to their immune systems. That is in fact why I take the time to monitor what Dr. McMillan and others, who I believe to be credible, have to say.

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Truth and Justice's avatar

Here is what I noticed about the unvaccinated that I personally know: they are all better off from health point of view than the vaccinated group. And on top of that, ever since they all got the Omicron, none of them got sick with covid after that. This means that Dr. Geert Vanden Boschee theory was correct. Natural immunity is long lasting and powerful. Now, having watched all his interviews, and dr. Philip 's interviews as well, there is one thing that could make me feel concerned and motivate me to have my covid treatment protocol ready, is his prediction. Dr. Philip believes that when Hivicron will arrive even the unvaccinated one will be seriously affected. Although dr. Geert doesn't agree with him( the only exception for him are those who are not in good health) I don't think is a bad idea to prepare for such scenario, just in case.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Where’s the good ol days when people got sick and acquired natural immunity

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Diane Carroll's avatar

Thank you. Your research is invaluable.

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Diane Carroll's avatar

I have not been vaccinated or ill in the last 3 to 4 years.

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Ginger's avatar

Correct me if I am wrong, but I recall India not using the shot. They provided their population with vitamin D, antibiotics and horse paste pills. So this flu is affecting a huge amount of the population and it is worse than the flu. In theory, they don't have the issues with the shot that we have in the west. Terrifying and perhaps the overlords have released something new.

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111garrygull's avatar

You are looking for autopsies and I was listening to another podcast and he said all people that die in state care an intensive autopsies are done and those may be accessible like Espstein autopsy is.

USA. They do this to prove no harm or torture happens becuase of the state.

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Robin Whittle's avatar

We are not helpless. The first, most important, step to take does not involve research, drugs, medical procedures, vaccines etc.

Please read the research cited and discussed at: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/.

It is inexpensive and practical to adopt proper vitamin D3 supplementation to attain the 50 ng/mL (125 nmol/L = 1 part in 20,000,000 by mass) circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D which the immune system needs to function properly. This 2.5 times what most doctors think is necessary for full health.

25-hydroxyvitamin D calcifediol (AKA "calcidiol") is not a hormone. Nor is vitamin D3 cholecalciferol. These are not signalling molecules.

About 1/4 of ingested or UV-B >> skin produced vitamin D3 is hydroxylated in the liver to become the circulating 25-hydroxyvitamin D, as measured in "vitamin D" blood tests, which many types of immune cells need to run their intracrine (inside each cell) and paracrine (to nearby cells, typically of different types) signalling systems. These are crucial to the ability of each cell to adapt its behaviour to its changing circumstances.

See: https://vitamindstopscovid.info/00-evi/#00-how-much for the recommended vitamin D3 average daily supplemental quantities, from New Jersey based Professor of Medicine Sunil Wimalawansa. The amount depends on body weight, with higher ratios for those suffering from obesity. For 70 kg 154 lb without obesity, a good amount is 125 micrograms a day. This is also known as "5000 IU". It is 5 x the maximum amount allowed in capsules in Australia without prescription. This is a gram every 22 years, and, ex-factory, pharma-grade vitamin D3 costs about USD$2.50 a gram.

There's very little vitamin D in food, including that which is fortified with vitamin D3 or the less effective vitamin D2.

Vitamin D3 can be generated, by breaking a bond in 7-dehydrocholesterol, by UV-B skin exposure. However, this is not naturally available all year round (high elevation sunlight without glass, sunscreen or clothing intervening). To rely on UV-B skin exposure for the vitamin D3 we need to run our immune system properly, all year round, for decades, would greatly increase our risk of skin cancer.

So the only safe, practical, way most people worldwide can be healthy is proper vitamin D3 supplementation. The sole exception is infants substantially breast fed by 25-hydroxyvitamin D replete mothers.

Without this most people have half or less of the 25-hydroxyvitamin D they need to be healthy. Some people (the elderly, those with dark or black skin, and or those who avoid exposing their skin to the Sun) have 1/10th or less of the 125 nmol/L 50 ng/mL they need.

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Kate's avatar

After reading your article it leaves me wondering how the Unvaccinated will do?

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Jeanine's avatar

We don't need to ask Dr. Sabine because Dr. McMillan has already given us the answer. Immunity to COVID is very short-lived, and that's the problem. Repeated reinfection until the immune system gets so damaged that you die. So, thinking you are achieving immunity by reinfection is a very dangerous game to play. You're not paying attention to what he is gently trying to tell you.

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Truth and Justice's avatar

This article about the flu in India is a pretty important and valuable one. Thank you for writing it. Since I had no idea about what's going on in India, I decided to do some research. Here is what I found out: their infection rate is 25%, which is considered high. It may be only a matter of time, when it starts spreading everywhere. I would also like to thank Dr. Philip for doing the recent interview with Dr. Geert. It was one of the best I have seen so far. After listening to it three times, I got an idea. I asked Chat GPT to send me weekly updates about how the virus evolves, based on Dr. Geert's unique criterias. I receive these updates several times a week. But here is what I also did: asking " the smart brain" to analyze the data from dr. Geert's perspective. It is absolutely fascinating! And priceless! Oh, and I have an idea for a future next interview:-). How about making posibil for Dr. Geert to have a debate about the Hivicron with all those fancy virologists that refused to have an honest debate with him? The A.I. can make it now possible. All you need to do is to give Chat GPT clear instructions who to impersonate. This would be epic.

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Myriam Gagnebin's avatar

En français ce n'est pas possible?

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Truth and Justice's avatar

Non, je ne pense pas. On n'est pas au Québec ici:-). Mais Chat GPT peut tout traduire pour vous.

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