Thankyou both ....I have paid attention to your messaging for years now , and your dedication and sincere efforts to practice " real " medicine , to the betterment of humanity are what I find most impressive ....in a medical world , that has been so derailed and corrupted , your atrempts to educate against the prevailing narative are so , so appreciated .....God bless you both ....🙏
Thank you, Dr McMillan, for the 'introductory' short video for this - it really helped and for the first time, I managed to follow Geert and get the nucleocapsid part! I hope Geert will speak again at some point. Thank you for all your hard work educating us.
Thank you for the great interview, although I would like to have seen a little more emphasis on what people can be doing to protect themselves - e.g., whether taking the BCG vaccine might help - and some discussion of what various other people think about what Dr. Vanden Bossche is saying - e.g., RFK Jr. (who once interviewed him) and the many vaccination experts you have interviewed, who I haven’t seen say much, if anything, about Dr. Vanden Bossche and what we should be doing to prepare if there is even a small chance his prediction is correct. I think we need to publicly press all of the pandemic scientists with large followings to scientifically analyze what Dr. Vanden Bossche is saying and if they disagree with him - as Dr. Robert Malone said he does - then agree to engage in public discussion with him so everyone can better judge who is more knowledgeable and trustworthy. The almost complete silence with regard to Dr. Vanden Bossche’s argument, as presented in his recent article and now the interview, is shocking to me. I don’t think we can afford to be so concerned with our reputations or whatever that we act like ostriches with our head in the ground.
This is a disturbing statement, I must say! I have found this source on Covid close to 3+ years, and I had faith that the information was truthful. And now , I still believe and support the the work involved with Covid 19, I was looking for a way to save myself, I couldn't find a Doctor in my Healthcare System that would acknowledge my concerns, today,
I feel the effects of the 2 Vaccines I've had, today I feel worse yet, and I finally accept what is to be and no longer search for answers or cure! Thank you Dr. for all your dedication to the community and the research that you have tirelessly put into this project! I wish you well after all that we've been through! Thanks go out to your colleagues who have been offering truth
It's so very complex and as a non medical person, I can only piece together what is to come! It is not over, I feel 1/2 dead today with no future from the 19 Pandemic!
Have you watched the video from John Campbell where he interviews a doctor (I am sorry I don’t remember her name but the thumbnails should come up once you mention….’Augmented NAC’), it was I think March/April this year (2025) hopefully this may help you and something worth trying.
Thank you dear! I've begun to listen to the podcast you suggested! I will finish the film entirely! It is very concerning and it is the only source of information that I have stumbled upon in the last 3 or more years and have checked in with from time to time, feeling hopeless ever since my life have taken a downward spiral!
I was thinking about this last night. The prevalence of the virus goes in waves - but it never goes back to the baseline - so the baseline increases. Where do I find that data/graph?
It is also scary that the time for a new strain to become dominant goes down. The evolution accelerates. I hope Philip is going to do a summary of the discussion. I will watch it again.
Then the compromise in infectiousness is insufficient to have any significant impact on rate of infection, such that transmission to others goes unabated. Difficult to predict or model.
In the past a highly virulent (>95% lethality) gastroenteritis coronavirus recombined with a milder respiratory one to yield a recombinant with <10% lethality. The recombinant then dominated, and while the original GI one did not disappear entirely, it was a relief to see it take a minor role. There is always the possibility of SARS CoV-2 doing such a thing, however remote.
The lethality of SARS CoV-2 is low, but the damage it is doing with repeat infection and LONG COVID is significant, unlike any other virus in scale to my knowledge. Geert has paid little to no attention to the pathogenicity of this virus.
"Our cross-sectional data show that COVID-19, but not other respiratory infections, rapidly increased cellular senescence and exhaustion in CD4 and CD8 T cells during early infection. In addition, longitudinal analyses with patients from Brazil and Portugal provided evidence of increased frequencies of senescent and exhausted T cells over a 7-d period in patients with 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐝/𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 and severe COVID-19. Altogether, the study suggests that accelerated immunosenescence in CD4 and especially CD8 T-cell compartments may represent a common and unique outcome of SARS-CoV2 infection." [PMID: 39298288 ] This suggests to me T cell compartment problems long before HIVICRON or anything else showing up.
Geert suggests that LONG COVID reflects chronic infection, while there are those with chronic infection in the immune compromised and double stranded RNA has been isolated from the gut lining reflective of a replicating cycle, there is much more data suggesting persistence of viral proteins or protein fragments in LONG COVID supported by elevated anti-Envelope and anti-Nucleocapsid IgG
response.
If I am not mistaken he was making light of the significance of chronic infection earlier and the variant trackers of sewage water in particular. Whereas I had the impression that the sewage water scene has calmed down significantly in terms of new variants although they continue to assert that the cryptic variants are coming from the long-term chronically infected, but remarkably never trace it to an individual despite identifying the building and toilets in question. There has been no remarkable change in what has been observed in sewage water tracking that I am aware of that would justify his reference to 𝘩𝑒𝘪𝑔𝘩𝑡𝘦𝑛𝘦𝑑 𝑣𝘪𝑟𝘢𝑙 𝑎𝘤𝑡𝘪𝑣𝘪𝑡𝘺 𝘥𝑒𝘵𝑒𝘤𝑡𝘦𝑑 𝑖𝘯 𝘸𝑎𝘴𝑡𝘦𝑤𝘢𝑡𝘦𝑟. Just the usual https://x.com/SolidEvidence/status/1968746572516045230
Clearly the on-going waves of infection are totally irregular.
Geert has moulded his prophesy as the dynamic and kinetics changed, To my knowledge the HI in HIVICRON was highly infectious. You asked was it here already. What Geert described originally clearly has not manifest, Yet.
If I understand correctly HIVICRON in the chronically infected will be the progenitor of the final super-variant with complete immune evasive capabilities. This suggests a two phase process; the arrival of HIVICRON needs to be announced, followed by the emergence of the final Super-variant that dominates quickly and evades anything our immune system can muster. Is HIVICRON a new coronavirus species or just the Super final variant? Current rapid antigen tests will not detect it I presume.
I don't know if Geert builds into his narrative the findings of the UK Challenge study ( https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07575-x) where a high percentage of the participants knocked the virus on the head day one, with no interferon response, no antibodies, no symptoms, just immediate clearance by T cells - apparently. By this I mean many of that phenotype would have been vaccinated - are they doomed too, or the sole survivors? Then again if it is a new species, who can tell what their immune response will be.
I don't have the expertise, and certainly not the time, to stay across the details any more. What Geert has said has always been plausible and his suggestion that 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘮𝘦 this is what will happen would not be surprising.
Mother nature is not soft and cuddly, she will want equilibrium. Either way Public Health is up shit-creek without a paddle.
As a Terrain Practitioner I know that many people are very ignorant of the dangers of drugs, try teaching then about change of Lifestyle and detoxing and destressing.
Philip - there are a lot key questions that need to be asked. I think you should have had an AMA session with Geert and your audience, as he leaves the stage as he had said this is his last one.
I work in the admissions area of a large hospital organization. What was strange in 2023/2024/2025 was the influx of patients admitted for non respiratory issues, like stroke, myo infarction, pulmonary embolism, who also happened to test positive for Sars-Cov-2.. and those are only patients that physician suspected there could be underlying infection....I am sure there have been thousands of patients they never test for.....I do not think they will EVER have the full scope of what is going on and I am sure that is what they want.
Mr. Seager, if you have such outrageous judgements on Dr. Geert, may I ask you what are you doing here?! What's in it for you? Why are you so willing to waist your precious time? This is enough to make me very suspicious.
Richard may well be aware that there’s no scientific evidence for the existence of any virus. Furthermore, the genuine illnesses misattributed to viruses are not contagious.
These two lies together form the entire basis for “vaccination”, a particularly evil deception.
Anyone interested to learn the formal basis of these claims is welcome to visit my Telegram channel as well as Chat channel.
To be utterly cynical, if a new variant was really going to decimate humans via a destroyed immune system, why would the demonics in charge be bothering to role out the dystopian digital ID, CBDC and social credit scores? Surely the problem - as they see it - has already been dealt with and they just need to sit and wait?
Not only that but I cannot for the life of me figure out how a bit of dead matter, as even if viruses existed this is agreed upon more or less, can evolve.
Basically I think when he talks about immune escape he's talking about people not viruses. He's concerned that the attempt to kill, or at the very least get everyone to be vaccinated, will radicalize everyone. Maybe unconscious, maybe not.
Why are so many people around me so sick all the time? One infection after another, they cant seem to shake it off. I’m not vaccinated, and never sick. I take c-, d-vit. every day.
To view all scientific evidence is vital all can be wrong or right or even elements from each but without discussion we cannot discern a bigger picture. We know agenda 2030 is a depopulation agenda using War, Pandemics, Famine, frequencies, climate change and other avenues which they have. The main thing is to look at as much information as possible and descern for ourselves. Also look at way to combat attacks from all directions and even the power of faith and even support from non humans. For instance my choice of avatar is a ship I photographed it is non human. I know what I have experienced personally many would not even be able to comprehend but it is my experience of life.
Thankyou both ....I have paid attention to your messaging for years now , and your dedication and sincere efforts to practice " real " medicine , to the betterment of humanity are what I find most impressive ....in a medical world , that has been so derailed and corrupted , your atrempts to educate against the prevailing narative are so , so appreciated .....God bless you both ....🙏
Thank you.
Scary for sure….unfortunately I think you’re both your correct! I believe the next decade will tell the whole story!
One day you will wake up ... and it will have begun...
Extinction is Imminent
One day….it’s already well underway!
Thank you, Dr McMillan, for the 'introductory' short video for this - it really helped and for the first time, I managed to follow Geert and get the nucleocapsid part! I hope Geert will speak again at some point. Thank you for all your hard work educating us.
I agree, Dr McMillan’s introductory video helped me prepare for and understand Geert’s interview today.
Excellent.
Thanks for Sharing this Dr McMillan and a big thanks to Geert
Thank you for the great interview, although I would like to have seen a little more emphasis on what people can be doing to protect themselves - e.g., whether taking the BCG vaccine might help - and some discussion of what various other people think about what Dr. Vanden Bossche is saying - e.g., RFK Jr. (who once interviewed him) and the many vaccination experts you have interviewed, who I haven’t seen say much, if anything, about Dr. Vanden Bossche and what we should be doing to prepare if there is even a small chance his prediction is correct. I think we need to publicly press all of the pandemic scientists with large followings to scientifically analyze what Dr. Vanden Bossche is saying and if they disagree with him - as Dr. Robert Malone said he does - then agree to engage in public discussion with him so everyone can better judge who is more knowledgeable and trustworthy. The almost complete silence with regard to Dr. Vanden Bossche’s argument, as presented in his recent article and now the interview, is shocking to me. I don’t think we can afford to be so concerned with our reputations or whatever that we act like ostriches with our head in the ground.
Very true.
This is a disturbing statement, I must say! I have found this source on Covid close to 3+ years, and I had faith that the information was truthful. And now , I still believe and support the the work involved with Covid 19, I was looking for a way to save myself, I couldn't find a Doctor in my Healthcare System that would acknowledge my concerns, today,
I feel the effects of the 2 Vaccines I've had, today I feel worse yet, and I finally accept what is to be and no longer search for answers or cure! Thank you Dr. for all your dedication to the community and the research that you have tirelessly put into this project! I wish you well after all that we've been through! Thanks go out to your colleagues who have been offering truth
In a world where it is very scarce.
Thank you for providing this info!
It's so very complex and as a non medical person, I can only piece together what is to come! It is not over, I feel 1/2 dead today with no future from the 19 Pandemic!
I wish you well!!
Have you watched the video from John Campbell where he interviews a doctor (I am sorry I don’t remember her name but the thumbnails should come up once you mention….’Augmented NAC’), it was I think March/April this year (2025) hopefully this may help you and something worth trying.
Thank you dear! I've begun to listen to the podcast you suggested! I will finish the film entirely! It is very concerning and it is the only source of information that I have stumbled upon in the last 3 or more years and have checked in with from time to time, feeling hopeless ever since my life have taken a downward spiral!
Possible perhaps the chronic undermining of the immunity over time means that this plays a part in the future inability to fight hivicron
I was thinking about this last night. The prevalence of the virus goes in waves - but it never goes back to the baseline - so the baseline increases. Where do I find that data/graph?
It is also scary that the time for a new strain to become dominant goes down. The evolution accelerates. I hope Philip is going to do a summary of the discussion. I will watch it again.
Plan to do that.
Immunosuppression is not a good thing
If the new coronavirus / HIVICRON pays a price in decline in its infectiousness, how can it transmit so fast??
Good question.
The premise is that there is no immune protection so the viral replication continues unchecked systemically and via the respiratory tract.
Then the compromise in infectiousness is insufficient to have any significant impact on rate of infection, such that transmission to others goes unabated. Difficult to predict or model.
In the past a highly virulent (>95% lethality) gastroenteritis coronavirus recombined with a milder respiratory one to yield a recombinant with <10% lethality. The recombinant then dominated, and while the original GI one did not disappear entirely, it was a relief to see it take a minor role. There is always the possibility of SARS CoV-2 doing such a thing, however remote.
The lethality of SARS CoV-2 is low, but the damage it is doing with repeat infection and LONG COVID is significant, unlike any other virus in scale to my knowledge. Geert has paid little to no attention to the pathogenicity of this virus.
"Our cross-sectional data show that COVID-19, but not other respiratory infections, rapidly increased cellular senescence and exhaustion in CD4 and CD8 T cells during early infection. In addition, longitudinal analyses with patients from Brazil and Portugal provided evidence of increased frequencies of senescent and exhausted T cells over a 7-d period in patients with 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐝/𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞 and severe COVID-19. Altogether, the study suggests that accelerated immunosenescence in CD4 and especially CD8 T-cell compartments may represent a common and unique outcome of SARS-CoV2 infection." [PMID: 39298288 ] This suggests to me T cell compartment problems long before HIVICRON or anything else showing up.
Geert suggests that LONG COVID reflects chronic infection, while there are those with chronic infection in the immune compromised and double stranded RNA has been isolated from the gut lining reflective of a replicating cycle, there is much more data suggesting persistence of viral proteins or protein fragments in LONG COVID supported by elevated anti-Envelope and anti-Nucleocapsid IgG
response.
If I am not mistaken he was making light of the significance of chronic infection earlier and the variant trackers of sewage water in particular. Whereas I had the impression that the sewage water scene has calmed down significantly in terms of new variants although they continue to assert that the cryptic variants are coming from the long-term chronically infected, but remarkably never trace it to an individual despite identifying the building and toilets in question. There has been no remarkable change in what has been observed in sewage water tracking that I am aware of that would justify his reference to 𝘩𝑒𝘪𝑔𝘩𝑡𝘦𝑛𝘦𝑑 𝑣𝘪𝑟𝘢𝑙 𝑎𝘤𝑡𝘪𝑣𝘪𝑡𝘺 𝘥𝑒𝘵𝑒𝘤𝑡𝘦𝑑 𝑖𝘯 𝘸𝑎𝘴𝑡𝘦𝑤𝘢𝑡𝘦𝑟. Just the usual https://x.com/SolidEvidence/status/1968746572516045230
Clearly the on-going waves of infection are totally irregular.
Geert has moulded his prophesy as the dynamic and kinetics changed, To my knowledge the HI in HIVICRON was highly infectious. You asked was it here already. What Geert described originally clearly has not manifest, Yet.
If I understand correctly HIVICRON in the chronically infected will be the progenitor of the final super-variant with complete immune evasive capabilities. This suggests a two phase process; the arrival of HIVICRON needs to be announced, followed by the emergence of the final Super-variant that dominates quickly and evades anything our immune system can muster. Is HIVICRON a new coronavirus species or just the Super final variant? Current rapid antigen tests will not detect it I presume.
I don't know if Geert builds into his narrative the findings of the UK Challenge study ( https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-024-07575-x) where a high percentage of the participants knocked the virus on the head day one, with no interferon response, no antibodies, no symptoms, just immediate clearance by T cells - apparently. By this I mean many of that phenotype would have been vaccinated - are they doomed too, or the sole survivors? Then again if it is a new species, who can tell what their immune response will be.
I don't have the expertise, and certainly not the time, to stay across the details any more. What Geert has said has always been plausible and his suggestion that 𝘪𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘰𝘯𝘢𝘣𝘭𝘦 𝘵𝘰 𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘶𝘮𝘦 this is what will happen would not be surprising.
Mother nature is not soft and cuddly, she will want equilibrium. Either way Public Health is up shit-creek without a paddle.
This is madness.
I would assume because the vaccinated will have no immune system defense against it.
I wonderd if transmissibility is different from infectiousness. The latter being how quickly it replicates.
No mandates.
This is a beautifully refreshing discussion, we need to make this go viral! Thank you 🪷
Thank you.
As a Terrain Practitioner I know that many people are very ignorant of the dangers of drugs, try teaching then about change of Lifestyle and detoxing and destressing.
Philip - there are a lot key questions that need to be asked. I think you should have had an AMA session with Geert and your audience, as he leaves the stage as he had said this is his last one.
In fact he has too much to say and contribute to be allowed to disappear into the wings. You will have to have him on again.
I work in the admissions area of a large hospital organization. What was strange in 2023/2024/2025 was the influx of patients admitted for non respiratory issues, like stroke, myo infarction, pulmonary embolism, who also happened to test positive for Sars-Cov-2.. and those are only patients that physician suspected there could be underlying infection....I am sure there have been thousands of patients they never test for.....I do not think they will EVER have the full scope of what is going on and I am sure that is what they want.
Geert is an idiot and nobody should take any notice of the prick.
Mr. Seager, if you have such outrageous judgements on Dr. Geert, may I ask you what are you doing here?! What's in it for you? Why are you so willing to waist your precious time? This is enough to make me very suspicious.
Richard may well be aware that there’s no scientific evidence for the existence of any virus. Furthermore, the genuine illnesses misattributed to viruses are not contagious.
These two lies together form the entire basis for “vaccination”, a particularly evil deception.
Anyone interested to learn the formal basis of these claims is welcome to visit my Telegram channel as well as Chat channel.
https://t.me/DrMikeYeadonsolochannel
https://t.me/DrMikeYeadonsolochannelChat
My Substack also holds many articles underwriting them.
These two gentleman seem friendly enough to trust them, but they’re not your friends.
For example:
https://open.substack.com/pub/drmikeyeadon/p/virus-lie-contagion-lie-vaccine-lie
To be utterly cynical, if a new variant was really going to decimate humans via a destroyed immune system, why would the demonics in charge be bothering to role out the dystopian digital ID, CBDC and social credit scores? Surely the problem - as they see it - has already been dealt with and they just need to sit and wait?
Not only that but I cannot for the life of me figure out how a bit of dead matter, as even if viruses existed this is agreed upon more or less, can evolve.
Basically I think when he talks about immune escape he's talking about people not viruses. He's concerned that the attempt to kill, or at the very least get everyone to be vaccinated, will radicalize everyone. Maybe unconscious, maybe not.
Why are so many people around me so sick all the time? One infection after another, they cant seem to shake it off. I’m not vaccinated, and never sick. I take c-, d-vit. every day.
To view all scientific evidence is vital all can be wrong or right or even elements from each but without discussion we cannot discern a bigger picture. We know agenda 2030 is a depopulation agenda using War, Pandemics, Famine, frequencies, climate change and other avenues which they have. The main thing is to look at as much information as possible and descern for ourselves. Also look at way to combat attacks from all directions and even the power of faith and even support from non humans. For instance my choice of avatar is a ship I photographed it is non human. I know what I have experienced personally many would not even be able to comprehend but it is my experience of life.