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Mark's avatar

Imagine how much worse asbestosis would have been, had 72% of the population been injected with a genetic instruction to grow the fibres within their own cells.

No One Knows's avatar

YES the idea of growing something toxic in the body seems demonic to me..... far beyond stupid

Paul Thomas's avatar

This was an excellent analogy and actually indirectly more excellent than might be thought.

With asbestosis disease there are 2 possible respiratory diseases one horrible, one chronic and often mor livable with the horrible one is as stated mesothelioma basically a lung cancer which develops slowly as stated after asbestosis dust or fibres exposure. A Human example of this would be the death of Steve McQueen a USA Film actor from quite a few years back now.

The chronic lung disease is asbestosis and this varies from individual to individual sometimes pleural plaques caused by asbestos fibres can be seen via chest X-rays or scans and yet produce limited symptoms (though as stated sometimes symptoms here can be much worse individually - a lot of variation -sound familiar?).

Covid originally when it was a direct fast killing disease was also in the greater part a Lung Disease but there is current clinically missing and wrong science to do with lung physiology which meant the reasons escaped clinical Doctors. Note this occurred pre Omicron and this quick killing acute Covid Disease no longer exists.

Ref:- Pulmonary Surfactant and Covid-19. A new Synthesis

https://doi.org/10.1017/qrd.2022.1

Current Covid Disease after Omicron is chronic and is vascular related. Again missing clinical science this time the glycocalyx (nano structure thickness but miles in length) i.e. blood linings

Reference ESL function and structure

https://doi.org/10.1017/S0033583519000118

and related to neurological function and in greater scientific detail

Glycocalyx as supplemental neurological pathway

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cis.2025.103401

There is missing physiological and biochemical science in above papers of complex nature and their function can be disrupted by viral infection and viral debris. Analogy asbestosis can do similar in lung alveoli. and from their also in glycocalyx.

0zMe's avatar

Wonder if Covid may also be similar to HIV a virus that made preliminary fever followed by years of dissolving immune system and T cells ?

Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

Certainly correct for a portion of the population.

Iain Harris's avatar

My late father in law who become an industrial chemist at Runcorn on the Wirral often told a story as how in his youth he and his colleagues had snowball fights, in the 1950's, at lunchtime with powdered asbestos. He had a very long life and died of old age.

Likewise my father, who was a surgeon, always said one could never say smoking caused cancer as there were too many who smoked like the proverbial chimney but never succumbed to cancer. In both cases there is either a protective element of which we are unaware or there is another process.

Dr Philip McMillan's avatar

This is true for most diseases.

Risk is often genetic.

J J's avatar

Yes, as young men my father and his brothers worked in the TB hospital in Liverpool, because they all had a natural immunity to it¡

Yvonne Allen-Eekhout's avatar

I've often looked at the risk of cancer from smoking and as you say many smoke like chimneys without succumbing to anything. But after my father and brother succumbed to Emphysema after heavy smoking we realised there was a weak link in their genetics. The Alpha 1 Antitrypsin deficiency.

Naomi Hunter's avatar

I appreciate you repeating your thoughts. This particular video helped me to clarify what I can say to people who are always discounting any problem by saying," What about those people who don't have any reaction or side effects?"

Celeste's avatar

I agree completely. Everyone will react differently to exposure.

jennifer dibley's avatar

My sister died of multiple micro blood clots five years post vaccination with Johnson and Johnson (whose website said they stopped making it because there was no more demand for it ) I cannot mention the Covid vaccine and its effects to my family to this day

cg's avatar

When I read these articles, I ignore “COVID-19” altogether and know that you really mean the fake vaccines. They are the actual killer.

John Clegg's avatar

So apart from potential heart, brain, liver and vascular damage, plus of course numerous cancers, the vaccine roll-out was such a success, it was simply to die for.

Sadly, it seems, I won't be around to witness acceptance that what happened, was perhaps not the wisest way to tackle a novel virus.